1 | Dancing along the light of day Thu, Feb 4, 2010 11:03:25pm |
Good night, dear lizards.
Be kind to your self & the ones you love!
2 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 4, 2010 11:08:14pm |
re: #1 Floral Giraffe
Be kind to your self
I was raised to believe that would cause blindness and hirsute palms.
4 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Thu, Feb 4, 2010 11:19:56pm |
re: #3 Varek Raith
Are you making fun of me? I can't tell. I can barely see, and all this hair is getting in the way of typing.
6 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 4, 2010 11:25:39pm |
Blind Faith - Can't Find My Way Home - 1969
7 | Killgore Trout Thu, Feb 4, 2010 11:28:17pm |
9 | ryannon Thu, Feb 4, 2010 11:55:35pm |
And good night, Mrs. Calabash, where ever you are.
10 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 12:00:53am |
I want to write a little from my heart.
People laughed at Jeremiah. He said again and again that terrible things would come. He said these things could be averted if only people changed their ways and turned back from the brink.
I am no Jeremiah. I am not a tenth or a thousandth of the man he was. And yet he failed. No matter how he begged people to listen, no matter how much he shouted or pleaded with people to just open their eyes, they did not.
What followed was horror. His lamentations describe depravities, rapine and privations in terms of horror that can only be properly read when sitting on the ground and weeping.
I am no Jeremiah. No scientist is. None of us are a thousandth the man he was. I take no solace realizing that he failed when he was so much greater.
I do not have the power of prophecy or a divine link like he did. But I do have the certainty of the science.
The earth will turn against us as if it were a living foe. We are facing a doom of fire and water, famine, drought and plague. It will be all around the world. There will be no place to go and no respite. People will go to bed at night wishing that the day had only been suffering as terrible as the day before that. Billions will die in a pandemic catastrophe of biblical proportions.
This is what the prophecy of numbers and data says. That is the reality of the changing climate.
Unlike Jeremiah, I am not alone. There are thousands of scientists shouting the warnings. One need only look at the naked mountaintops of Europe and flooded plains of Asia to see. One need only look at the shrunken glaciers and feel the ever more common and more intense storms. It is all there to see. It is screaming at us to be heard.
But people refuse to look as surely as they did in Jeremiah's day. And all of us scientist together are not a thousandth of the man he was.
And Jeremiah failed.
11 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 12:12:35am |
But in their heart of hearts, people understood that it was too late to turn from the yawning brink of destruction. Still others, hypnotized by the void, walked towards the precipice, heedless of what would ensue. And the darkest souls amongst them, believing that it was divine retribution for humanity's sins, secretly rejoiced in the idea that in this catastrophe, they alone would be survive....
12 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 12:18:16am |
re: #11 ryannon
But in their heart of hearts, people understood that it was too late to turn from the yawning brink of destruction.
The tragedy there was that it wasn't. It isn't yet now either.
Still others, hypnotized by the void, walked towards the precipice, heedless of what would ensue.
That is most people. They are in this case like ants, scurrying on their business, heedless of the foot coming down. We are insignificant in the face of natural forces.
And the darkest souls amongst them, believing that it was divine retribution for humanity's sins, secretly rejoiced in the idea that in this catastrophe, they alone would be survive...
That truly is the GOP, and China and Russia and those who run India and most of Europe. They are so convinced that they are masters of the Universe that they can not fathom that physics always wins. Those that do see it coming also know in their black hearts that when the times get bad, they will have the army behind them. They miscalculated though. That will keep them fed until the army runs out of food.
13 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 12:24:18am |
It's Humanity, Ludwig, and for better or for worse, we're married to it.
In the meantime, here's something neither you nor any of the other Lizards have yet to see. If nothing else, it should get you through the night. As for the next and all those to come, I cannot say....
14 | Slumbering Behemoth Stinks Fri, Feb 5, 2010 12:42:24am |
G'nite folks, catch y'all later.
15 | thefarmer Fri, Feb 5, 2010 12:45:26am |
I 'm sorry to add to a thread such a beautiful pic, with such a tawdry subject as IL politics, but this is too bizarre to pass up, and so far I've seen it generally missed elsewhere.
Apparently IL voters in the Dem primary have succeeded in nominating a pawn broker (not that there's anything wrong w/ that) for Lt. Gov. who has a very questionable past.
Let's see...in his divorce his wife accussed him of injectable steroid use and violence against family members. Then later he was arrested for assaulting his prostitute girlfriend w/ a knife.
However he managed to spend 3 million dollars in his race for Lt. Gov. (while not paying child support) and the enlightened Democrats in IL nominated him! So much for press examination of our candidates, here's a little mea culpa on that. [Link: thecapitolfaxblog.com...]
The nominated Dem. candidate for Gov., Patrick Quinn, wants to ditch him. It will be interesting to see if they pay him off to go away. He's nominated and legally has the right to the position on the ballot.
T
PS I'm from IL, don't blame me, never voted for BO
16 | AK-47% Fri, Feb 5, 2010 1:07:15am |
re: #15 thefarmer
I 'm sorry to add to a thread such a beautiful pic, with such a tawdry subject as IL politics, but this is too bizarre to pass up, and so far I've seen it generally missed elsewhere.
Apparently IL voters in the Dem primary have succeeded in nominating a pawn broker (not that there's anything wrong w/ that) for Lt. Gov. who has a very questionable past.
Let's see...in his divorce his wife accussed him of injectable steroid use and violence against family members. Then later he was arrested for assaulting his prostitute girlfriend w/ a knife.
However he managed to spend 3 million dollars in his race for Lt. Gov. (while not paying child support) and the enlightened Democrats in IL nominated him! So much for press examination of our candidates, here's a little mea culpa on that. [Link: thecapitolfaxblog.com...]
The nominated Dem. candidate for Gov., Patrick Quinn, wants to ditch him. It will be interesting to see if they pay him off to go away. He's nominated and legally has the right to the position on the ballot.
T
PS I'm from IL, don't blame me, never voted for BO
Illinois voters illecting a somewhat unsavory candidate for Lieutenant Governor? Long live the spirit of Lyndon LaRouche!
17 | simoom Fri, Feb 5, 2010 1:21:58am |
Sure, the GOP Senate minority has already dealt in an unprecedented number of cloture votes, an unprecedented number of arbitrary holds on nominees, and basically requires 60 votes to move any legislation to the floor (also unprecedented), but even by those already dysfunctional standards this is pretty impressive:
Shelby Blocks All Obama Nominations In The Senate Over AL Earmarks
Sen. Richard Shelby (R-AL) has put an extraordinary "blanket hold" on at least 70 nominations President Obama has sent to the Senate, according to multiple reports this evening. The hold means no nominations can move forward unless Senate Democrats can secure a 60-member cloture vote to break it, or until Shelby lifts the hold.
...
According to the report, Shelby is holding Obama's nominees hostage until a pair of lucrative programs that would send billions in taxpayer dollars to his home state get back on track.
...
A San Diego State University professor and Congressional expert told the Mobile paper "he knew of no previous use of a blanket hold" in recent history.
"Up-or-down-vote" anyone?
18 | Velvet Elvis Fri, Feb 5, 2010 1:25:38am |
Richard Thompson -- Shoot Out the Lights (Austin City Limits 1995)
19 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:13:53am |
Expecting over a foot of snow, and Charles posts pictures of palm trees.
Sadistic SOB.
20 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:15:58am |
re: #13 ryannon
Wow... this is blocked in 'my country'.
21 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:15:59am |
re: #19 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Expecting over a foot of snow, and Charles posts pictures of palm trees.
Sadistic SOB.
2 feet here...
sigh...
Morning!
22 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:21:53am |
re: #21 Varek Raith
I don't want to work
I want to slave in the snow all day
I don't want to play
I just want to slave in the snow all day
23 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:43:37am |
Ruth Bader Ginsburg is 77....
John Paul Stevens is 90...
I am afraid that Obama may replace them with liberal judges.
/
24 | Scriptorium Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:45:37am |
re: #20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wow... this is blocked in 'my country'.
Blocked in my country, too! Evil New Zealand!
25 | Scriptorium Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:49:31am |
re: #10 LudwigVanQuixote
Have you read Atwood's The Year of the Flood?
Is a bit like your scenario...
And sometimes all one can do is contemplate geologic time.
26 | RadicalModerate Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:49:37am |
re: #17 simoom
Sure, the GOP Senate minority has already dealt in an unprecedented number of cloture votes, an unprecedented number of arbitrary holds on nominees, and basically requires 60 votes to move any legislation to the floor (also unprecedented), but even by those already dysfunctional standards this is pretty impressive:
Shelby Blocks All Obama Nominations In The Senate Over AL Earmarks
"Up-or-down-vote" anyone?
Wasn't Shelby involved in the "nuclear option" nonsense of the 2005 Senate, along with Bill Frist, which was over Democrats delaying about 20% of GWB's judicial appointees - and the Republican majority back then was only 55-45.
Oh, and a quick reminder -
27 | Scriptorium Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:50:22am |
FBG: on what word in your handle is the emphasis? (all are nice...)
28 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:53:23am |
re: #27 Scriptorium
You mean me? I know it is not always about me. But do you mean me?
30 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:55:16am |
Compare his 2010 State of the Union to his first address to Congress a year earlier. The consistency is remarkable. In 2009, after passing a $787 billion (now $862 billion) stimulus package, the largest spending bill in galactic history, he unveiled a manifesto for fundamentally restructuring the commanding heights of American society -- health care, education and energy.
A year later, after stunning Democratic setbacks in Virginia, New Jersey and Massachusetts, Obama gave a stay-the-course State of the Union address (a) pledging not to walk away from health-care reform, (b) seeking to turn college education increasingly into a federal entitlement, and (c) asking again for cap-and-trade energy legislation. Plus, of course, another stimulus package, this time renamed a "jobs bill."
This being a democracy, don't the Democrats see that clinging to this agenda will march them over a cliff? Don't they understand Massachusetts?
Well, they understand it through a prism of two cherished axioms: (1) The people are stupid and (2) Republicans are bad. Result? The dim, led by the malicious, vote incorrectly.
SNIP
Liberal expressions of disdain for the intelligence and emotional maturity of the electorate have been, post-Massachusetts, remarkably unguarded. New York Times columnist Charles Blow chided Obama for not understanding the necessity of speaking "in the plain words of plain folks," because the people are "suspicious of complexity."
SNIP
Obama joined the parade in the State of the Union address when, with supercilious modesty, he chided himself "for not explaining it [health care] more clearly to the American people." The subject, he noted, was "complex." The subject, it might also be noted, was one to which the master of complexity had devoted 29 speeches. Perhaps he did not speak slowly enough.
SNIP
31 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:56:57am |
“We’re living beyond our means, we have difficult choices to make, we must protect our economic future,” Villaraigosa said during a late afternoon news conference. “Unfortunately, instead of making progress, we are headed in the wrong direction. That ends today.”
SNIP
32 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:57:19am |
re: #29 Scriptorium
My nic used to be "Chubby Vegan". But gave up on veganism out of sheer laziness. Changed my nic to FBV a couple of years ago to be more honest.
Fat Bastard (character from the Austin Powers movie)... I guess the emphasis would be on the V.
Every time (in person) someone finds out that I am a vegetarian, they look at me and say... really?
They expect that all vegetarians are shaped like Fiona Apple or Moby.
They ain't.
34 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 3:59:30am |
36 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:03:20am |
37 | RadicalModerate Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:03:31am |
re: #30 MandyManners
With all those strawmen that Krauthammer built in that article, he oughta be wary about all those lit matches he's throwing.
38 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:04:06am |
re: #36 MandyManners
Snowing on my head... I can sleep all day, been up for an hour.
39 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:05:42am |
Under an agreement that is still being finalized, the National Security Agency would help Google analyze a major corporate espionage attack that the firm said originated in China and targeted its computer networks, according to cybersecurity experts familiar with the matter. The objective is to better defend Google -- and its users -- from future attack.
Google and the NSA declined to comment on the partnership. But sources with knowledge of the arrangement, speaking on the condition of anonymity, said the alliance is being designed to allow the two organizations to share critical information without violating Google's policies or laws that protect the privacy of Americans' online communications. The sources said the deal does not mean the NSA will be viewing users' searches or e-mail accounts or that Google will be sharing proprietary data.
SNIP
40 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:07:05am |
re: #37 RadicalModerate
With all those strawmen that Krauthammer built in that article, he oughta be wary about all those lit matches he's throwing.
*Knocks the matches out of Karuathammer's hand* and
*Hands him a M202A1 FLASH*
:)
41 | Boogberg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:11:40am |
re: #39 MandyManners
"The sources said the deal does not mean the NSA will be viewing users' searches or e-mail accounts or that Google will be sharing proprietary data."
SNIP
If the NSA isn't already doing that, then they suck! lol
(kidding)
42 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:12:19am |
Who lives in a pineapple under the sea?
43 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:13:14am |
After a year in office, Mr. Obama has managed to do what every modern president may have wanted to do but never did: effectively shut out the reporters who work just a few feet from the Oval Office. He has not had a full-scale White House news conference in seven months, the longest such stretch by any president in a decade. And he has made a practice of not taking reporters’ questions at day-to-day events, as other presidents did.
None of that means that Mr. Obama has shielded himself from public scrutiny. But he has fundamentally altered the way a president deals with the news media. Instead of open-ended sessions with multiple reporters, he prefers one-on-one interviews, particularly with television anchors. He gives far more interviews than his two most recent predecessors did, reflecting the conclusion that the format is a more effective means for getting his message through.
“He’s getting plenty of tough questions,” said Joe Lockhart, a press secretary for President Bill Clinton. “I just think they want to put him in environments where he can demonstrate both his mastery of the subject and make a compelling case for his agenda. A White House press conference isn’t at the top of that list. That’s just the reality.”
SNIP
Mr. Pfeiffer said the White House media strategy was based on discipline. “We have done press conferences and we will do them again,” he said. But, he added, “you want to do these things when you have something to communicate, something to say, not just be a piñata for the press corps.”
I have no words. Well, other than that this is the perfect scenario for stroking an ego instead of rapid-fire challenges.
44 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:13:34am |
Greetings, my friend. We are all interested in the future, for that is where you and I are going to spend the rest of our lives. And remember my friend, future events such as these will affect you in the future. You are interested in the unknown... the mysterious. The unexplainable. That is why you are here. And now, for the first time, we are bringing to you, the full story of what happened on that fateful day. We are bringing you all the evidence, based only on the secret testimony, of the miserable souls, who survived this terrifying ordeal. The incidents, the places. My friend, we cannot keep this a secret any longer. Let us punish the guilty. Let us reward the innocent. My friend, can your heart stand the shocking facts of grave robbers from outer space?
45 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:13:34am |
46 | Boogberg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:13:45am |
re: #42 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Sponge! Bob! Square! Pants! :D
47 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:13:47am |
re: #37 RadicalModerate
With all those strawmen that Krauthammer built in that article, he oughta be wary about all those lit matches he's throwing.
Ha!
Barrett Brown has a lot of material coming up on Krauthammer, apparently. Not sure if it will be reproduced at True/Slant or only in his forthcoming book on the gasbags of the punditocracy.
48 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:14:23am |
re: #41 Boogberg
If the NSA isn't already doing that, then they suck! lol
(kidding)
Imagine the moonbats' heads exploding if this were done by Pres. Bush.
Well, they still might explode. I wonder if Alex Jones will flip out.
49 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:15:42am |
re: #48 MandyManners
Imagine the moonbats' heads exploding if this were done by Pres. Bush.
Well, they still might explode. I wonder if Alex Jones will flip out.
...he' always flipped out.
50 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:15:53am |
re: #47 iceweasel
Krauthammer? I barely knew her!
I'm going to bed. Karaoke + many beers = awesome night and sleepytime.
51 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:16:33am |
re: #43 MandyManners
I have no words. Well, other than that this is the perfect scenario for stroking an ego instead of rapid-fire challenges.
Of course. Because if he stayed in the bubble of the WH press corps, I'm sure we wouldn't be hearing anything at all about how he's an eeleetist who is out of touch with regular Ahmurkins outside the beltway, right?
52 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:17:59am |
re: #45 Varek Raith
Tony Snow used to sing this whole theme song on his radio show. Watching Sponge Bob with his kids was one of his life's joys. I loved Tony.
53 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:18:13am |
55 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:18:46am |
56 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:19:54am |
re: #54 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I'm a total Karaoke Geek!
I own about half a dozen karaoke CD-Gs, I'm right there with you. Mostly, I do 80's new wave stuff, metal, and classic rock. And the occasional Beatles song. :D
57 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:20:53am |
re: #49 Varek Raith
...he' always flipped out.
And Bush blocked people with Tshirts he didn't like, or bumperstickers he didn't like, from attending his tightly scripted and screened 'public' events. And hardly spoke to the press at all for the second term.
WH Policy Illegally Silences Americans Critical of Bush, ACLU Alleges
Etc, etc.
58 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:21:06am |
Alex Jones goes Super Saiyan.
59 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:21:15am |
Brooklyn prosecutors said Thursday that Ivaylo Ivanov also pleaded guilty to possessing a secret cache of weapons discovered at his home in 2008 after he shot himself in the hand. Police found explosives, a semiautomatic handgun and ammunition.
SNIP
60 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:21:21am |
re: #49 Varek Raith
...he' always flipped out.
When your career depends on flipping out, you flip out a lot.
EVERYBODY PANIC, LEE HARVEY OSWALD'S MOM SECRETLY ATE THE WORLD TRADE CENTER
61 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:21:51am |
re: #58 Varek Raith
Guys... it's over nine thousand.
62 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:22:27am |
re: #50 WindUpBird
Krauthammer? I barely knew her!
I'm going to bed. Karaoke + many beers = awesome night and sleepytime.
Sounds great! See you later-- I'm out too.
PS loved the Plan 9 ref!
63 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:22:39am |
(early) Morning everyone. I'm working about a half day today, maybe more depending on the snow. It's nice to be in so early - very easy commute, and it's nice and quiet. But my stupid, obosolete government computer is pissing me off. It took about 5 minutes to open a simple pdf file this morning. More excuse to goof off instead of work, I guess. I'm suprised I got LGF to load as quick as it did.
64 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:22:43am |
re: #57 iceweasel
And Bush blocked people with Tshirts he didn't like, or bumperstickers he didn't like, from attending his tightly scripted and screened 'public' events. And hardly spoke to the press at all for the second term.
WH Policy Illegally Silences Americans Critical of Bush, ACLU AllegesEtc, etc.
Hey man! He's the commander guy!
65 | Boogberg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:23:26am |
re: #48 MandyManners
Tell me about it. You know, in spite of Hollywood's portrayal of our security services, I have a hard time believing they're some sort of "evil entity".
66 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:23:37am |
re: #63 Mad Al-Jaffee
Stay safe. Gonna get dicey up there. Already getting dicey here.
68 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:23:51am |
re: #62 iceweasel
Sounds great! See you later-- I'm out too.
PS loved the Plan 9 ref!
So many drunken nights spent watching bad movies. So many brain cells, lost to antiquity. :D
69 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:24:00am |
Immigration and Customs Enforcement officials say 14 businesses were targeted this week, including one that used armed guards and pit bulls to hold immigrants in a stash house.
SNIP
70 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:24:08am |
71 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:25:02am |
re: #65 Boogberg
Tell me about it. You know, in spite of Hollywood's portrayal of our security services, I have a hard time believing they're some sort of "evil entity".
Same here but, they are run and staffed by humans.
72 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:26:25am |
re: #70 WindUpBird
I AM THE DECIDEMAKER
Heh. Don't know if you were familiar with this little gem:
Dear Leader's Daily Thought
Warning: not for people who liked Bush.
73 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:26:38am |
At the three-day annual event, top world politicians and diplomats will discuss security issues in the Middle East and elsewhere in a series of speeches and panel discussions, and some will hold informal talks with each other.
Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi will give the opening speech on Friday afternoon. A permanent member of the UN Security Council, China is a major player in the dispute with Iran over its nuclear activities.
74 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:26:44am |
re: #66 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Stay safe. Gonna get dicey up there. Already getting dicey here.
Thanks, I will. I plan to be out of here by 12:45 or 1:00. The Metro should still be running okay then. I might even have time to stop by a smaller grocery store (a coop I belong to) on the way home. This one won't be mobbed like the other ones since it's not as well known to the public.
75 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:28:09am |
Chinese Foreign Minister Yang Jiechi warned Thursday that talk of additional sanctions is complicating the situation and hindering efforts to find a diplomatic solution.
Meantime, a leading Russian lawmaker, Konstantin Kosachyov, suggested Russia is more in agreement with Western nations calling for additional sanctions.
He told Russian state news that Iran's recent launch of a satellite has raised concerns that the Islamic Republic could eventually fire a long-range nuclear weapon.
SNIP
76 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:30:25am |
re: #74 Mad Al-Jaffee
Last night? At Kroger? 20 deep at every register.
Not a raw potato in the place.
77 | Boogberg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:31:13am |
re: #71 MandyManners
Yeah. I still like to believe our capacity for good outweighs our capacity for evil. I wonder sometimes though, with some of the hateful crap I read on the internet.
78 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:31:31am |
re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Last night? At Kroger? 20 deep at every register.
Not a raw potato in the place.
Heh, that's why I took care of things Wednesday night.
:)
79 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:31:34am |
80 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:31:48am |
re: #72 iceweasel
Heh. Don't know if you were familiar with this little gem:
Dear Leader's Daily ThoughtWarning: not for people who liked Bush.
Ayiee, I'm too buzzed to continue!
81 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:32:28am |
Cohen also allegedly skipped child-support payments at the same time he was investing his own money -- a total of more than $2 million -- in his successful bid to become the Democratic nominee for lieutenant governor. His ex-wife, Debra York-Cohen, alleged just two months ago that he owed her nine months worth of back child support totaling $54,000 for their four children.
York-Cohen described life with the millionaire pawnbroker as "pretty unbearable" and said she lived "in constant fear of him," according to a May 2005 order of protection she filed in the divorce case.
"Over the past year, my husband has been taking injectable anabolic steroids. And as a result, he has an erratic, explosive temper," York-Cohen explained in seeking the protection order. She also said Cohen tried to force her to have sex with him.
SNIP
In that case, a prostitute with whom Cohen was living alleged he held a knife to her throat. She showed police minor scars on her neck and hands. The charge was dropped when the woman failed to show up in court.
SNIP
82 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:32:35am |
re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
20 deep at every register.
Not a raw potato in the place.
This should be a hip-hop lyric
83 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:33:31am |
re: #76 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Shopper's was like that too (I posted about it last night.) I didn't even try. And all I wanted was some pork or chicken to barbecue Sunday!
I went to the coop early last night but they didn't have the meat I was looking for. I'll try again today and see if I can settle for something else.
I have to go to the library anyways, and it's right by the coop. If it's crazy there I'm not even going to try.
84 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:34:00am |
re: #79 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Can't say you didn't warn me.
That's right, you can't.
I could link a site making fun of Obama if it makes you feel better. I have done so before.
85 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:34:07am |
re: #77 Boogberg
Yeah. I still like to believe our capacity for good outweighs our capacity for evil. I wonder sometimes though, with some of the hateful crap I read on the internet.
I try to keep that in the forefront of my mind every day.
86 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:34:35am |
re: #83 Mad Al-Jaffee
Well, we're set for a month food wise... which is a good thing, since our food budget is shot...
87 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:34:58am |
re: #77 Boogberg
Yeah. I still like to believe our capacity for good outweighs our capacity for evil. I wonder sometimes though, with some of the hateful crap I read on the internet.
Man I hope you're right!
88 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:35:01am |
re: #84 iceweasel
That's right, you can't.
I could link a site making fun of Obama if it makes you feel better. I have done so before.
All politicians are fair, or unfair, game in my book!
:)
90 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:36:04am |
re: #72 iceweasel
Heh. Don't know if you were familiar with this little gem:
Dear Leader's Daily ThoughtWarning: not for people who liked Bush.
Straight guys and lesbians?
91 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:36:33am |
re: #84 iceweasel
That's right, you can't.
I could link a site making fun of Obama if it makes you feel better. I have done so before.
I found a youtube, that...wow it was funny. Really funny. Around the election, I sorta thought it would be really hard to make fun of Obama? I was wrong!
92 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:37:25am |
93 | Boogberg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:37:58am |
Less than an hour to go for employment numbers. I sure hope they're less bad. The market is getting killed.
94 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:39:29am |
re: #88 Varek Raith
All politicians are fair, or unfair, game in my book!
:)
Exactly.
Barack Obama is your new bicycle
or
Barack Obama stole your new bicycle.
Something for everyone!
95 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:39:35am |
re: #93 Boogberg
Less than an hour to go for employment numbers. I sure hope they're less bad. The market is getting killed.
Gonna be worse, from what I've heard. Seems some numbers have been... uh... how do I say it... under-reported?
96 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:40:06am |
re: #93 Boogberg
Less than an hour to go for employment numbers. I sure hope they're less bad. The market is getting killed.
Get your roll-caged dune buggies with gun ports ready. Mad Max is waiting!
97 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:40:48am |
"We have 12 dead and up to 40 wounded. Some of the wounded are in critical condition," said Kaleem Sheikh, senior doctor at Karachi's main hospital.
A second blast later went off at the premises of a hospital where victims of the bus blast were being treated, a doctor said.
SNIP
98 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:41:09am |
re: #96 WindUpBird
Get your roll-caged dune buggies with gun ports ready. Mad Max is waiting!
Hi Glenn!
/
99 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:41:59am |
re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Gonna be worse, from what I've heard. Seems some numbers have been... uh... how do I say it... under-reported?
I always believe unemployment numbers are under-reported. The methodology skews optimistic, U6 versus U3, and so on.
100 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:42:44am |
I finally saw the "demon sheep" political ad. It's too bad the election wasn't last year. That demon sheep could have been a hot Halloween constume.
101 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:43:26am |
102 | Boogberg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:43:38am |
re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Lol! You're not suggesting the numbers might be getting a nice back rub, are you? ;)
103 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:44:14am |
re: #100 Mad Al-Jaffee
I finally saw the "demon sheep" political ad. It's too bad the election wasn't last year. That demon sheep could have been a hot Halloween constume.
My favorite was the Terminator eyes. That sheep can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity. Or remorse.
104 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:45:29am |
re: #98 Varek Raith
Hi Glenn!
/
BUST A DEAL AND FACE THE WHEEL
*revving of suspiciously Interceptor-like V8s*
105 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:46:14am |
106 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:47:18am |
Sheesh, Explorer (not IE) is pegging both processor cores a 100%... Stupid MS.
107 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:47:49am |
re: #103 WindUpBird
My favorite was the Terminator eyes. That sheep can't be reasoned with. It doesn't feel pity. Or remorse.
I'll be baaaaaaaaaack.
108 | Boogberg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:48:30am |
re: #96 WindUpBird
Get your roll-caged dune buggies with gun ports ready. Mad Max is waiting!
Yeah, it's fun to watch a streaming stock quote board just before the numbers are announced. Trading slows WAY down. Then all hell breaks loose after. :D
109 | WINDUPBIRD DISEASE [S.K.U.M.M.] Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:52:16am |
re: #108 Boogberg
Yeah, it's fun to watch a streaming stock quote board just before the numbers are announced. Trading slows WAY down. Then all hell breaks loose after. :D
I have no monetary interest in the market, but weirdly enough, I am very curious when it starts to behave strangely. It interests me way more than sports does. Like that dog in the His Master's Voice painting, my ears perk up.
110 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:55:41am |
China has yet to respond to news of the agreement, thought to be the first European sale to Taiwan's armed forces since the early 90s.
Taiwan's defence ministry spokesman Martin Yu said the island would buy EC-225 search-and-rescue helicopters. The $111m contract with Eurocopter, a subsidiary of EADS, is for three helicopters, with an option to buy up to 17 more.
The move could fray Sino-European ties, already under strain over trade and currency issues. Yesterday China filed a complaint to the World Trade Organisation over the EU's anti-dumping tariffs on shoes.
The arms deal could also affect Beijing's relations with Taipei, which have improved markedly since President Ma Ying-jeou took office on a platform of improving ties two years ago.
However, others believe that China could remain silent or issue only a muted response if it is satisfied that the helicopters are not for military tasks.
SNIP
111 | Boogberg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 4:57:41am |
re: #109 WindUpBird
I have no monetary interest in the market, but weirdly enough, I am very curious when it starts to behave strangely. It interests me way more than sports does. Like that dog in the His Master's Voice painting, my ears perk up.
Really? No IRA etc?
114 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:14:29am |
re: #95 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Gonna be worse, from what I've heard. Seems some numbers have been... uh... how do I say it... under-reported?
That's now called "differently-reported". Joking aside, it's often not important that government stats measure their subject with high accuracy, as long as the measurements are made consistently through time. (Used to say "It's OK if the number is wrong, as long as it's wrong the same way every time.")
115 | Taqyia2Me Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:14:37am |
[Link: www.chicagotribune.com...]
"...Even before his last prison stay, Giorango had reinvented himself as a real estate investor.
He'd already been purchasing office buildings and renting space to politicians. His tenants included U.S. Rep. Jan Schakowsky, D-Ill.; now-retired state Sen. Carol Ronen, D-Chicago, and state Rep. Harry Osterman, D-Chicago. He also received $11 million in loans from the Giannoulias family's Broadway Bank. The loans to Jaws were approved by Alexi Giannoulias.
Giannoulias can't shake the Jaws business. Republicans keep targeting the loans in their ads...."
SNIP
Looks like Cohen is not IL dems only "issue".
116 | Boogberg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:19:43am |
re: #114 Decatur Deb
That's now called "differently-reported". Joking aside, it's often not important that government stats measure their subject with high accuracy, as long as the measurements are made consistently through time. (Used to say "It's OK if the number is wrong, as long as it's wrong the same way every time.")
Strangely enough, that makes sense. Kinda like speedometers on old cars.
117 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:20:03am |
This is Lawrence. This is Lawrence, Kansas. Is there anybody there? Anybody at all?
118 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:20:42am |
re: #117 SteveC
This is Lawrence. This is Lawrence, Kansas. Is there anybody there? Anybody at all?
May day.....may day....
119 | Mr. Crankypants Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:21:39am |
re: #116 Boogberg
Strangely enough, that makes sense. Kinda like speedometers on old cars.
AS long as you know the number is off, you can avoid getting a ticket.
That being said, metrics are a squirrely business, in that no matter how you decided to calculate the metric somebody is going to insist that your metric isn't as accurate as theirs.
120 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:22:43am |
I found out today that the government is closing 4 hours early. Good thing I planned like I did today.
122 | Boogberg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:23:55am |
re: #117 SteveC
This is Lawrence. This is Lawrence, Kansas. Is there anybody there? Anybody at all?
Haha! "How about a nice game of chess?" :)
123 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:24:33am |
re: #122 Boogberg
Haha! "How about a nice game of chess?" :)
Why don't you pass the time by playing a little solitaire?
124 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:25:27am |
re: #122 Boogberg
Haha! "How about a nice game of chess?" :)
The only way to win is to stack the deck!
125 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:25:58am |
127 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:29:18am |
128 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:34:08am |
Jobs report looking pretty tough. A lot of the numbers are being revised downward.
129 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:34:22am |
New website about the big storm we're supposed to get:
[Link: snowpocalypsedc.com...]
130 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:35:02am |
131 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:36:26am |
Ok help me out here, especially any female lizards logged on...what is provocative about this photo? I'm not seeing it...is it just because she's pretty and has a nice body?? so that upsets some groups??
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]
132 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:36:38am |
re: #20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wow... this is blocked in 'my country'.
Try using a free proxy like [Link: www.hidemyass.com...] with [Link: www.youtube.com...] - once you've connected, type yann arthus bertrand home and you should be able to see it. It's a feature-length color documentary in English, and well worth the time.... It will knock your socks off - even if you're not wearing any.
Here's a National Geographic summary:
133 | JRCMYP Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:36:59am |
I just thought I'd sling some Sarah Palin gossip around LGF.
I just can't help myself. Sarah Palin gossip is sort of like my version of potato chips. Great to eat up but leaves you feeling kinda gross afterwards.
134 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:37:57am |
re: #129 Mad Al-Jaffee
New website about the big storm we're supposed to get:
[Link: snowpocalypsedc.com...]
When in trouble
When in doubt
Run in circles
Scream and shout!
135 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:39:19am |
re: #131 Spider Mensch
Ok help me out here, especially any female lizards logged on...what is provocative about this photo? I'm not seeing it...is it just because she's pretty and has a nice body?? so that upsets some groups??
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]
i see no problem with it at all :) she is adorable ...
136 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:42:27am |
re: #131 Spider Mensch
Some people just have too much time on their hands and go out of their way to find things to complain about.
137 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:44:13am |
re: #130 _RememberTonyC
that is one of the most horrifying things I have ever read ...
Just keep reading when it comes to the ROP.
138 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:44:26am |
re: #135 _RememberTonyC
i see no problem with it at all :) she is adorable ...
well, yeah..any hetero man who looks at her can agree...but why do some get so upset about this....I guess they want her to ski in a burkha?? or wear one when she's not skiing? why does she deserve crap because of her looks and she is an athlete...I don't recall any pro woman groups going after all the beautiful figure skaters??
139 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:45:14am |
140 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:45:33am |
re: #138 Spider Mensch
well, yeah..any hetero man who looks at her can agree...but why do some get so upset about this...I guess they want her to ski in a burkha?? or wear one when she's not skiing? why does she deserve crap because of her looks and she is an athlete...I don't recall any pro woman groups going after all the beautiful figure skaters??
now if there were a male skiier right behind her in the photo, then I could understand the "issue" with it ....
141 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:46:15am |
re: #137 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Just keep reading when it comes to the ROP.
no question about THAT ...
142 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:46:35am |
re: #140 _RememberTonyC
Hang on a sec. I need to go look at that again. I'll be back in a few.
143 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:47:21am |
re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ski nekkid.
'Nuff said...
ya know the saying..., "if you're willing to pay for it, they will come.." lol
if they can have the lingeree bowl at halftime of the Super bowl on PPV, then you can have nude skiing.
144 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:48:15am |
re: #138 Spider Mensch
well, yeah..any hetero man who looks at her can agree...but why do some get so upset about this...I guess they want her to ski in a burkha?? or wear one when she's not skiing? why does she deserve crap because of her looks and she is an athlete...I don't recall any pro woman groups going after all the beautiful figure skaters??
She's bending over! That's teh secks! Think of the children!!!!
145 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:49:11am |
re: #140 _RememberTonyC
now if there were a male skiier right behind her in the photo, then I could understand the "issue" with it ...
Margo Lane: "I dreamed I was lying naked on a beach with the warm sun caressing my skin. How were your dreams?"
Lamont Cranston: "I dreamed that I ripped my own face off and I was someone completely different underneath."
Margo: "You have issues."
146 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:49:24am |
re: #131 Spider Mensch
Ok help me out here, especially any female lizards logged on...what is provocative about this photo? I'm not seeing it...is it just because she's pretty and has a nice body?? so that upsets some groups??
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]
Wish the athletes wore stuff like that in Curling.
147 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:50:31am |
re: #139 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Ski nekkid.
'Nuff said...
"Experts say that 75% of your body heat is lost through your head. I guess that means you could ski naked if you had a good hat." --I can't remember who it's from, but some comedian
148 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:50:57am |
re: #144 Mad Al-Jaffee
She's bending over! That's teh secks! Think of the children!!!
hey..I'm like a turtle when I ski...lol..I'm so crunched down on the way down the hill, it looks like I'm taking a dump ( I know, TMI )..lol..lessens the impact when I fall...and I fall alot :)
149 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:51:07am |
re: #142 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hang on a sec. I need to go look at that again. I'll be back in a few.
i guess you'll be back in about 10-15 minutes?
150 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:51:19am |
re: #10
LVQ Redux:
LudwigVanQuixote
I want to write a little from my heart.
People laughed at Jeremiah. He said again and again that terrible things would come. He said these things could be averted if only people changed their ways and turned back from the brink.
I am no Jeremiah. I am not a tenth or a thousandth of the man he was. And yet he failed. No matter how he begged people to listen, no matter how much he shouted or pleaded with people to just open their eyes, they did not.
What followed was horror. His lamentations describe depravities, rapine and privations in terms of horror that can only be properly read when sitting on the ground and weeping.
I am no Jeremiah. No scientist is. None of us are a thousandth the man he was. I take no solace realizing that he failed when he was so much greater.
I do not have the power of prophecy or a divine link like he did. But I do have the certainty of the science.
The earth will turn against us as if it were a living foe. We are facing a doom of fire and water, famine, drought and plague. It will be all around the world. There will be no place to go and no respite. People will go to bed at night wishing that the day had only been suffering as terrible as the day before that. Billions will die in a pandemic catastrophe of biblical proportions.
This is what the prophecy of numbers and data says. That is the reality of the changing climate.
Unlike Jeremiah, I am not alone. There are thousands of scientists shouting the warnings. One need only look at the naked mountaintops of Europe and flooded plains of Asia to see. One need only look at the shrunken glaciers and feel the ever more common and more intense storms. It is all there to see. It is screaming at us to be heard.
But people refuse to look as surely as they did in Jeremiah's day. And all of us scientist together are not a thousandth of the man he was.
And Jeremiah failed.
re: #11 ryannon
Yet, in their heart of hearts, people understood that it was too late to turn from the yawning brink of destruction. Others, heartbroken, lacked the force and and vision to react. Still others, hypnotized by the void, walked towards the precipice, heedless of what would ensue. And the darkest souls amongst them, believing that it was divine retribution for humanity's sins, secretly rejoiced in the idea that in this catastrophe, they alone would survive...
re: #20 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wow... this is blocked in 'my country'.
Try using a free proxy like [Link: [Link: www.hidemyass.com...]...] with [Link: [Link: www.youtube.com...]...] - once you've connected, type yann arthus bertrand home and you should be able to see it. It's a feature-length color documentary in English, and well worth the time... It will knock your socks off - even if you're not wearing any.
Here's a National Geographic summary:
[Link: channel.nationalgeographic.com...]
I rarely insist on recommending information, but this is probably the best thing out there at the moment - meaning the best filmed, best documented and best narrated documentary on just about everything pertaining to the past, present and future of our planet. It's a hour and thirty-three minute feature film, so give yourself the time....
152 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:51:36am |
re: #148 Spider Mensch
hey..I'm like a turtle when I ski...lol..I'm so crunched down on the way down the hill, it looks like I'm taking a dump ( I know, TMI )..lol..lessens the impact when I fall...and I fall alot :)
Get close to the ground, not as far to fall!
153 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:51:55am |
re: #120 Mad Al-Jaffee
I found out today that the government is closing 4 hours early. Good thing I planned like I did today.
You mean we're safe?
155 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:52:46am |
156 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:53:40am |
Think I should go hose off the sidewalk and driveway with hot water? That'd be easier than shoveling it.
157 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:55:23am |
re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Think I should go hose off the sidewalk and driveway with hot water? That'd be easier than shoveling it.
Do you want to make ice?
159 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:57:08am |
re: #157 Mad Al-Jaffee
Do you want to make ice?
Frozen Dihydrogen Oxide will put your ass on the ground. If you are unlucky it could put your ass in the ground.
160 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:57:18am |
re: #156 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Think I should go hose off the sidewalk and driveway with hot water? That'd be easier than shoveling it.
I once heard an urban legend that in certain parts of Russia, they use a cheap form of vodka on the roads as a de-icer. cheaper and easier to come by than any type of salt or sand. and of course we use to de ice the airplanes with hot water first then cover with a glychol mixture.
161 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:58:19am |
I'm not shoveling until the snow stops. And I can't start now since I'm at work and not one flake has fallen yet.
162 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 5:59:41am |
re: #161 Mad Al-Jaffee
Oh, it's coming. Snowing like a Three Stooge/Jefferson Maid down here.
163 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:01:12am |
re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, it's coming. Snowing like a Three Stooge/Jefferson Maid down here.
We're getting only a small fraction of it up here, but even so, the roads are a MESS. I drove by 3 separate car accidents on my way into work today. I would've taken today off if I could've.
164 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:01:13am |
re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, it's coming. Snowing like a Three Stooge/Jefferson Maid down here.
The government's still open and Mass Ave is clear.
165 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:01:53am |
re: #150 ryannon
Is that thread still active? LVQ needs support when he stays on target.
166 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:02:20am |
re: #162 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oh, it's coming. Snowing like a Three Stooge/Jefferson Maid down here.
DC is going to get the most snow in the last 88 years and The Weather Channel is NOT sending Jim Cantore?
167 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:13:07am |
re: #166 SteveC
DC is going to get the most snow in the last 88 years and The Weather Channel is NOT sending Jim Cantore?
Jim's on special assignment..he's in a bar in Key West measuring the ice levels in his margarita....
168 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:17:02am |
re: #167 Spider Mensch
Jim's on special assignment..he's in a bar in Key West measuring the ice levels in his margarita...
Well, that is important meteorological research - the results could be used to combat Global Beverage Warming. Carry on, Jim!
169 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:22:16am |
re: #165 Decatur Deb
Is that thread still active? LVQ needs support when he stays on target.
I don't subscribe to LVQ's political stance ("That truly is the GOP, and China and Russia and those who run India and most of Europe."), I did post what I think is the necessary info (see above) to connect to a film that echoes his and others' analysis of climate change - with more elegance and intelligence than I've seen elsewhere. That's my contribution to the discussion and all I can suggest for those with an hour and a half to spare to watch it.
170 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:24:34am |
Here in CT we expect just an inch or so ... this climate change stuff is getting weird ... we should be getting pounded up here in the "860," and the "202" should not.
171 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:24:51am |
re: #166 SteveC
DC is going to get the most snow in the last 88 years and The Weather Channel is NOT sending Jim Cantore?
He's tied to a light pole at a stadium in Miami. He swears a big hurricane is coming. He swears!
172 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:25:32am |
Man furlough Fridays make the commute SOOOOOO much easier. Happy Friday foolios!
173 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:25:55am |
re: #115 Taqyia2Me
The new indictment only adds charges based on the same allegations the Blagojeviches have faced for months, including scheming to sell or trade the Senate seat vacated by President Barack Obama's election to the White House and a variety of political fundraising abuses.
SNIP
174 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:26:14am |
re: #167 Spider Mensch
Don't think that he's the Weather Channels weather vane bitch anymore.
175 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:27:02am |
re: #168 SteveC
Well, that is important meteorological research - the results could be used to combat Global Beverage Warming. Carry on, Jim!
see, there's no real climate gate or lack of disclosure regarding climate change data..just a few too many cocktails when they were inputing the data :) .."Must finish thiss report on climate, HIC!, change... does it feel hot in here??" "Honey, make me another scotch and shoulder, um soldier...I mean soda....the ice seems to have sucked up all of the scotch in this glass..."
176 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:27:22am |
Curiously enough, the House Progies appear to have me on GAZE. I've apparently not been toeing whatever the hell the party line is here these days, so even when I post something that's pretty much in accordance with their own beliefs, it's as if I'm invisible. Pretty stupid reactions from people I credited with more intelligence than that.
177 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:28:03am |
re: #125 Mad Al-Jaffee
Turkish girl reportedly buried alive for talking to boys
Police discovered the body of the girl, identified only as M.M., in a sitting position with her hands tied, in a two-meter-deep hole dug under a chicken pen outside her house in Kahta in the southeastern province of Adiyaman, the Turkish daily reported on its website.
The body was found in December, around 40 days after M.M. went missing. Police have arrested and charged the girl's father and grandfather over the murder. The father reportedly said in his testimony that the family was unhappy his daughter had male friends. Her mother was also arrested but later released.
A postmortem examination revealed a significant amount of soil in her lungs and stomach, indicating that she was buried alive and conscious, forensic experts told the Anatolia news agency.
SNIP
178 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:28:19am |
Greets and saluts from the NYC metro area. Everyone around these parts is wondering just how much snow we're supposed to get. If the experts are right, we'll get a couple of inches (maybe 6 at most) in NYC and points North and West.
If they're wrong in the wrong direction, and the storm tracks just a wee bit further to the North, we too will be facing a foot of snow. And South Jersey and points South are getting hammered either way. Let 'em have it.
179 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:28:59am |
re: #131 Spider Mensch
Ok help me out here, especially any female lizards logged on...what is provocative about this photo? I'm not seeing it...is it just because she's pretty and has a nice body?? so that upsets some groups??
[Link: sports.yahoo.com...]
Some would say it's a submissive position.
180 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:29:45am |
re: #176 ryannon
Curiously enough, the House Progies appear to have me on GAZE. I've apparently not been toeing whatever the hell the party line is here these days, so even when I post something that's pretty much in accordance with their own beliefs, it's as if I'm invisible. Pretty stupid reactions from people I credited with more intelligence than that.
I think I would call myself a Progie (although I was never scared away from "Liberal").
181 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:30:14am |
re: #180 Decatur Deb
I think I would call myself a Progie (although I was never scared away from "Liberal").
Ditto.
182 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:32:20am |
re: #176 ryannon
Curiously enough, the House Progies appear to have me on GAZE. I've apparently not been toeing whatever the hell the party line is here these days, so even when I post something that's pretty much in accordance with their own beliefs, it's as if I'm invisible. Pretty stupid reactions from people I credited with more intelligence than that.
Is that like the house wine?
183 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:32:25am |
Mmmm Lunch!
184 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:33:40am |
re: #183 Locker
I posted #1 yesterday.
Funny thing? Most of that shit doesn't look that unhealthy.
Look at Blimpie's veggie sub...
185 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:34:32am |
re: #181 Locker
Ditto.
They don't understand we libs are pretty careful about working our own shifts, what with union rules and all.
186 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:34:33am |
re: #182 MandyManners
Is that like the house wine?
We got red, white and rosé. What's your pleasure, ma'm?
187 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:35:24am |
re: #179 MandyManners
Some would say it's a submissive position.
really? ok we're all adults here, well maybe :)..but submissive in what sense because she is crounched? girl on top? bent over? anal sex? I'm being serious...I'm just guessing at the thought process here...I really don't see what the problem in this photo is.
188 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:35:46am |
re: #178 lawhawk
"And South Jersey and points South are getting hammered either way. Let 'em have it."
You are a very generous man. Have I ever told you that?
189 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:35:50am |
re: #184 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I posted #1 yesterday.
Funny thing? Most of that shit doesn't look that unhealthy.
Look at Blimpie's veggie sub...
I think it was the Tuna one that really surprised me but some of them like the Meatball Hero (which generally I love) didn't surprise me at all. Delicious and totally bad for you.
190 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:36:24am |
re: #189 Locker
Yeah... a tuna sandwich.. 1800 calories... yeah.
192 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:37:21am |
re: #150 ryannon
I hate to start an argument this early in the morning but damn, LVQ doesn't have a whole lot of faith in humanity or their ability to adapt and survive. Overwrought cries of "Gaia is going to kill us all" is part of the reason I'm incredibly skeptical of the "A" in AGW. physicists might want to put their math books down for awhile and pick up a history book.
193 | sergeant major Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:37:25am |
Tea Party Convention Plans National Organizing Strategy for Elections (Fox News)...Now I'm getting concerned.
194 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:37:43am |
re: #180 Decatur Deb
I think I would call myself a Progie (although I was never scared away from "Liberal").
re: #181 Locker
Ditto.
I'm sorry I even used the name. There's enough in-fighting here already, and personally my beliefs cut across all party and ideological lines. Write it off as a fit of pique and forget it - it's much more fun when we all get along instead of sniping at each other....
195 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:38:20am |
Wow, today must be my lucky day. I just got two different emails telling me I won two different lotteries! Lotteries I didn't even play!
196 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:38:33am |
You are probably going to find as you go out there... that you aren't going to amount to JACK SQUAT!
(Forking Classic)
197 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:39:35am |
re: #194 ryannon
I'm sorry I even used the name. There's enough in-fighting here already, and personally my beliefs cut across all party and ideological lines. Write it off as a fit of pique and forget it - it's much more fun when we all get along instead of sniping at each other...
I didn't know I was sniping, just happily admitting I'm a liberal/progressive. It's ALL good.. hell it's F R I D A Y bayyybeee.
198 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:39:36am |
re: #187 Spider Mensch
really? ok we're all adults here, well maybe :)..but submissive in what sense because she is crounched? girl on top? bent over? anal sex? I'm being serious...I'm just guessing at the thought process here...I really don't see what the problem in this photo is.
There is no problem, and you have to be nuts to see one.
Quick! Cover up the piano legs, the children might see!
Pure unadulterated horse shit.
199 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:40:29am |
re: #192 RogueOne
He studies this shit really hard, and I admire his passion.
When he's not feeling attacked, he's fascinating.
He doesn't scare me, so, I bypass the emotion and read context (what I can understand)...
200 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:40:53am |
re: #183 Locker
Mmmm Lunch!
I had the best reuben in the country yesterday.
[Link: www.rowlandweb.com...]
Yesterday was the best day ever.
201 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:41:30am |
re: #195 Mad Al-Jaffee
Wow, today must be my lucky day. I just got two different emails telling me I won two different lotteries! Lotteries I didn't even play!
Damn! This'd be a good day to play the lottery!
/
203 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:42:00am |
re: #197 Locker
I didn't know I was sniping, just happily admitting I'm a liberal/progressive. It's ALL good.. hell it's F R I D A Y bayyybeee.
I didn't accuse you of sniping, you goddam progie!
/
It was a mea culpa.
(That means, "can you lend me a twenty?" in Latin.)
204 | Daniel Ballard Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:42:04am |
205 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:42:33am |
re: #199 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
People who are emotionally overwrought bother me, bother me badly. It's a weakness. People unable to remain cool under fire should stay home under their beds.
206 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:43:08am |
re: #200 RogueOne
That reuben looks nice but man the bread looks fantastic. Lots of great things out here in Cali but unless you like sour dough the bread can leave you wanting... just a bit.
207 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:43:18am |
re: #198 ryannon
Pure unadulterated horse shit.
Is that what they are serving in the lunchroom today? I'm going to Ed's House of Liver. :(
208 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:43:24am |
re: #194 ryannon
I'm sorry I even used the name. There's enough in-fighting here already, and personally my beliefs cut across all party and ideological lines. Write it off as a fit of pique and forget it - it's much more fun when we all get along instead of sniping at each other...
No sweat. I don't see Prog as offensive (sounds kind of Irish/British though). LVQ's comment was the "hard" side of his position, but he kept it in the world of polite argument. I buy into AGW, but would like to see more discussion on the political and technical side of countermeasures decisions.
209 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:44:00am |
re: #205 RogueOne
People who are emotionally overwrought bother me, bother me badly. It's a weakness. People unable to remain cool under fire should stay home under their beds.
SHUT UP!!11!!!11! I HATE YOU!1!1!
(*snicker*)
210 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:44:09am |
DOW has dipped below 10k ... it's probably understandable as the market has had a good year. But if the GOP were in power, this dip below 10k would be topic number 1 on this weekend's yakker shows. We'll see if the hysteria from the media over this bad economic news is similar. And by the way, I am not happy the DOW is below 10k ... it hurts everyone when this happens.
211 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:44:39am |
Good Morning Lizards!
Quiet here in "always sunny" Philly. Lots of folks working from home today as the big storm bears down. Will have to see how much snow actually falls and then adjust my weekend plans accordingly.
212 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:44:48am |
re: #192 RogueOne
I hate to start an argument this early in the morning but damn, LVQ doesn't have a whole lot of faith in humanity or their ability to adapt and survive. Overwrought cries of "Gaia is going to kill us all" is part of the reason I'm incredibly skeptical of the "A" in AGW. physicists might want to put their math books down for awhile and pick up a history book.
I'm not LVQ's keeper, thank God.
But hey, just for kicks, watch the film I linked to. I mean, I only took an hour or so out of my day to talk about it and suggest proxy workarounds, so it's not like I'm pushing a quick joke.
213 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:44:57am |
re: #206 Locker
That reuben looks nice but man the bread looks fantastic. Lots of great things out here in Cali but unless you like sour dough the bread can leave you wanting... just a bit.
I think Shapiro's might be the only real jewish deli around. They make all their bread and have a real nice selection of pastries. Indpls doesn't have a very large jewish contingent but the ones we do have know wtf they're doing.
214 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:45:14am |
re: #205 RogueOne
People who are emotionally overwrought bother me, bother me badly. It's a weakness. People unable to remain cool under fire should stay home under their beds.
re: #209 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
SHUT UP!!11!!!11! I HATE YOU!1!1!
(*snicker*)
Everybody back! Come a step closer and I will burn the Nirth Sertifikit!
215 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:45:26am |
re: #210 _RememberTonyC
No joy in Mudville, here.
217 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:46:33am |
re: #205 RogueOne
People who are emotionally overwrought bother me, bother me badly. It's a weakness. People unable to remain cool under fire should stay home under their beds.
That's exactly where I'm posting from!
218 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:46:59am |
219 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:47:29am |
re: #210 _RememberTonyC
DOW has dipped below 10k ... it's probably understandable as the market has had a good year. But if the GOP were in power, this dip below 10k would be topic number 1 on this weekend's yakker shows. We'll see if the hysteria from the media over this bad economic news is similar. And by the way, I am not happy the DOW is below 10k ... it hurts everyone when this happens.
Fox will probably mention it.
220 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:47:34am |
re: #205 RogueOne
People who are emotionally overwrought bother me, bother me badly. It's a weakness. People unable to remain cool under fire should stay home under their beds.
Or smoke copious amounts of herb... works well and is dusty bunny free.
221 | MrSilverDragon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:48:35am |
Καλημέρα, λαοί!
Now I just have to learn how to pronounce that.
223 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:48:44am |
re: #215 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
No joy in Mudville, here.
Rain here; my Boston Babe says she's on the lookout for the white flakes.
// A good shampoo would cure that.
224 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:49:37am |
re: #222 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Oregano or basil?
Basil on the weekdays man. That Oregano is way too strong to commute on... that's week end style.
225 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:49:52am |
re: #206 Locker
That reuben looks nice but man the bread looks fantastic. Lots of great things out here in Cali but unless you like sour dough the bread can leave you wanting... just a bit.
I've never had a reuben because I don't like Russian dressing or saurkraut. But give me a corned beef (or better yet pastrami) on rye with spicey mustard any day. Om nom nom!
226 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:49:54am |
No one will ever know the answers, it seems. There will be no trial.Ivanov pled guilty Thursday to four counts of criminal possession of a weapon, in the first and second degrees, and four counts of criminal mischief as a hate crime.
In three weeks, on Feb 25., Kings County Supreme Court Justice Neil Jon Firetog is expected to sentence him to 18 years in prison for illegally possessing explosives, according to the plea deal with the Kings County District Attorney. Ivanov has already served over two years in prison, having been unable to make bail since his arrest.
So, how did this guy get caught? He accidentally shot himself and got treated at a local hospital where the questions were raised:
Then one day in January 2008, Ivanov accidentally shot himself with his 9mm handgun and sought medical attention at Long Island College Hospital in Cobble Hill. This led police to him and his apartment at Remsen and Hicks streets, and there they found eight pipe bombs, several handguns, bulletproof vests, a sniper rifle, a sawed-off shotgun and a crossbow, police said.One of the bombs was even cleverly built into a small football, presumably to aid distance if thrown.
227 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:50:08am |
228 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:50:44am |
re: #226 lawhawk
Wasn't this guy a NY football Giant?
229 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:50:56am |
231 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:51:34am |
re: #225 Mad Al-Jaffee
I've never had a reuben because I don't like Russian dressing or saurkraut. But give me a corned beef (or better yet pastrami) on rye with spicey mustard any day. Om nom nom!
Yea we went to Bud's Buffet here in downtown Sacramento yesterday for lunch. It's like a HofBrau where they carve the meat right in front of you. The roast beef is amazing but the Pastrami... if I could get it intravenously I would... it's that good.
232 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:51:40am |
Hey, random question for anyone that feels like answering:
How many people were at your wedding?
233 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:51:42am |
re: #225 Mad Al-Jaffee
I've never had a reuben because I don't like Russian dressing or saurkraut. But give me a corned beef (or better yet pastrami) on rye with spicey mustard any day. Om nom nom!
I wish there were a way to block this kind of talk from the Alabama Intertubes.
234 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:51:45am |
re: #187 Spider Mensch
really? ok we're all adults here, well maybe :)..but submissive in what sense because she is crounched? girl on top? bent over? anal sex? I'm being serious...I'm just guessing at the thought process here...I really don't see what the problem in this photo is.
Well, I'm not gonna' say it. If you can't figure it out, I suggest you look into becoming more adventurous.
235 | MrSilverDragon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:51:53am |
Bah, one of the Greek characters failed, so I'm going Dutch instead:
Goedemorgen, mensen!
236 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:52:21am |
re: #227 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Thanks. I just thought of Boston Creme Pie.
Really, thanks.
You aren't cleared for that information! :)
237 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:52:28am |
re: #226 lawhawk
I wonder if he moonlights playing a Professional Sport?
238 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:52:32am |
re: #220 Locker
Blame it on the meatballs.
[Link: www.baltimoresun.com...]
Court sniffs at ex-NYC officer's claim of wife sabotaging drug test with pot-spiked meatballs
NEW YORK (AP) — A former New York City counterterrorism detective who says he was unfairly fired as a result of a failed drug test he blamed on his wife's marijuana-spiked meatballs has lost a court bid to get his job back.
239 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:53:13am |
re: #225 Mad Al-Jaffee
I don't care for Russian dressing, not that great a fan of corned beef, and used to not like sauerkraut that much. But I've been eating reubens for years since the product is greater than the sum of its parts.
240 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:53:30am |
re: #225 Mad Al-Jaffee
I've never had a reuben because I don't like Russian dressing or saurkraut. But give me a corned beef (or better yet pastrami) on rye with spicey mustard any day. Om nom nom!
I picked up a pound of their corned beef while I was there. $16/lb but well worth it.
241 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:53:40am |
re: #235 MrSilverDragon
Bah, one of the Greek characters failed, so I'm going Dutch instead:
Goedemorgen, mensen!
おはよう!
242 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:54:10am |
re: #219 Decatur Deb
It's hovering at 10k. 10k is a psychological number and has no specific meaning. That we've lost a couple of percent off the market in the past week isn't good news, but could be part of a regular market correction after a pretty significant runup.
The big problem could be that the underlying fundamentals in the markets aren't as strong as we think they are - and instability with foreign governments worrying about defaults (particularly in several European countries). If they default, they can't pay their bills - and that might lead to further downgrades on bond ratings here and abroad. If the ratings are degraded in the US, the cost goes up significantly in interest - making the debt a whole lot more expensive.
243 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:54:19am |
re: #232 Obdicut
15 at the Paris in Las Vegas. It was fantastic but the wife had a fairly severe hang over.
245 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:54:50am |
re: #232 Obdicut
Hey, random question for anyone that feels like answering:
How many people were at your wedding?
Two principles, priest, two altar boys, two witnesses, 5 guests (one a crasher).
Very big church.
246 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:55:13am |
re: #240 RogueOne
I like to brine my own beef-- and other stuff. Corned bison is pretty damn tasty.
247 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:55:16am |
re: #228 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wasn't this guy a NY football Giant?
hehe..funny you mention that..I listened to wfan sport radio this morning, they had Bill Cowher on, he went to the prison quickdraw Plaxico Burress is in and did an interview with him to be aired I guess on the pregame show for the Super Bowl. one subject that was mentioned..he caught the game winning ball 2 super bowls ago, now he's not going to even get to watch the entire game..lights out at 8pm...lol..
248 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:55:43am |
re: #232 Obdicut
Hey, random question for anyone that feels like answering:
How many people were at your wedding?
200
249 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:55:46am |
re: #205 RogueOne
People who are emotionally overwrought bother me, bother me badly. It's a weakness. People unable to remain cool under fire should stay home under their beds.
Fuck you, bitch.
250 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:56:06am |
re: #234 MandyManners
Well, I'm not gonna' say it. If you can't figure it out, I suggest you look into becoming more adventurous.
and they say us men are the ones with all the dirty thoughts...lol ))))
251 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:56:07am |
re: #238 RogueOne
Bahaha that was hilarious. I love this line:
Police department lawyer Edward Hart says there was more marijuana in Chiofalo's system than the meatballs could explain.
253 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:56:49am |
re: #243 Locker
Hee hee. Sounds like fun. Congrats.
re: #245 Decatur Deb
I hope we get a crasher. Probably will, being San Francisco. Thanks!
re: #248 RogueOne
Thanks. So far, you're the upper limit, too. My fiancee and I are currently organizing our own wedding, which is why the question, by the way.
254 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:56:59am |
re: #251 Locker
Reminds me of the cop in michigan who called 911 thinking he was going to die when he ate too many pot brownies.
255 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:57:19am |
re: #232 Obdicut
Hey, random question for anyone that feels like answering:
How many people were at your wedding?
Lemme see:
Self, SWMBO, Hizzoner, court clerk, some passerby....
5. I make it at 5
256 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:57:22am |
re: #240 RogueOne
I picked up a pound of their corned beef while I was there. $16/lb but well worth it.
I'm glad I don't eat that stuff very often. I would probably go broke if I did. It's been a while since I tried to make my own pastrami. I need tp pick up a brisket and do it one of these days.
257 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:57:29am |
re: #246 Obdicut
No idea that these words would ever come from me but... I'd love to try some Corned Bison.
258 | MrSilverDragon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:57:29am |
re: #239 oaktree
I don't care for Russian dressing, not that great a fan of corned beef, and used to not like sauerkraut that much. But I've been eating reubens for years since the product is greater than the sum of its parts.
There's a deli a few miles away from my office that makes an absolutely wonderful Reuben. Pair that up with their Matzoh Ball soup, and I can fall into a food coma bliss (and have quite a few times)!
Parkway Deli in Silver Spring, MD. Oh man, I've yet to find better in the area. I highly recommend it.
259 | _RememberTonyC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:57:44am |
re: #247 Spider Mensch
hehe..funny you mention that..I listened to wfan sport radio this morning, they had Bill Cowher on, he went to the prison quickdraw Plaxico Burress is in and did an interview with him to be aired I guess on the pregame show for the Super Bowl. one subject that was mentioned..he caught the game winning ball 2 super bowls ago, now he's not going to even get to watch the entire game..lights out at 8pm...lol..
Now they call him Plexiglass Burress .... I'm sure when he gets out he'll become a regular on "Jersey Shore."
260 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:57:55am |
re: #250 Spider Mensch
and they say us men are the ones with all the dirty thoughts...lol )))
We like to let you think that.
261 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 6:58:36am |
re: #252 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I blame the Reuben photo... can't...look...away...
262 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:00:05am |
re: #225 Mad Al-Jaffee
Katz's on the Lower East Side is just the thing for you. You can literally feel your cholesterol levels rising as you enter the store and the wonderful hot spicy corned beef and pastramis aromas hit you. Or, you could get it shipped.
263 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:00:16am |
re: #258 MrSilverDragon
There's a deli a few miles away from my office that makes an absolutely wonderful Reuben. Pair that up with their Matzoh Ball soup, and I can fall into a food coma bliss (and have quite a few times)!
Parkway Deli in Silver Spring, MD. Oh man, I've yet to find better in the area. I highly recommend it.
My mother lives in walking distance of that deli.
264 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:00:27am |
re: #257 Locker
Bison is awesome to work with. I suggest just keeping the brining spice to juniper berries, pepper, and paprika.
265 | MrSilverDragon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:00:51am |
re: #263 Mad Al-Jaffee
My mother lives in walking distance of that deli.
I'm very glad that I don't. I'd go broke from eating there just about every day.
266 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:01:02am |
re: #262 lawhawk
Katz's on the Lower East Side is just the thing for you. You can literally feel your cholesterol levels rising as you enter the store and the wonderful hot spicy corned beef and pastramis aromas hit you. Or, you could get it shipped.
I've been there. I think the last time I went my pastrami sandwich became three meals.
267 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:01:03am |
re: #257 Locker
Tried a bison burger while I was just FB.
Gamey. Didn't like it at all.
Tried a bison steak.
Didn't like it worse.
268 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:01:16am |
re: #246 Obdicut
Never had corned bison; it sounds delicious (though bison is real lean and the corning process does require some fat to get the flavor and texture right. Maybe when I swing out west later this year I'll track some down.
269 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:01:27am |
re: #264 Obdicut
Bison is awesome to work with. I suggest just keeping the brining spice to juniper berries, pepper, and paprika.
You eat buffalo wings???
/;)
270 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:01:41am |
re: #262 lawhawk
Katz's on the Lower East Side is just the thing for you. You can literally feel your cholesterol levels rising as you enter the store and the wonderful hot spicy corned beef and pastramis aromas hit you. Or, you could get it shipped.
23.75 a pound and you provided photos. You just WANT my wife to shoot me for blowing our budget on compulsive deliveries. Shit man that could be worse than 900 numbers!
271 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:02:19am |
If you're into deli, you could always use this book as your guide.
272 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:03:06am |
re: #242 lawhawk
I'm pretty ignorant of the market, but watch the numbers closely as a kind of social pulse. What little I know is comes from its history, more than Economics.
It seems that stocks once had something to do with making steel and automobiles. Now much more of Wall Street is about moving numbers from one flat panel to another.
273 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:03:11am |
re: #267 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Tried a bison burger while I was just FB.
Gamey. Didn't like it at all.
Tried a bison steak.
Didn't like it worse.
Hmm.. maybe I'll get some and mix it with some pork and make meatballs or something. Same kind of situation with Venison as far as being lean and needing some additional fat for moisture and flavor.
274 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:03:33am |
re: #271 lawhawk
We have a very good deli in Roanoke. Kosher and non... called the New Yorker. They have a cheese sub... prolly about fifty million calories and GOOOD!
275 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:03:35am |
Unemployment rate, but supposedly it is a statical glitch. The Labor Department "Found" 500,000 jobs!
So....
... how do you find 500,000 jobs. Haven't you guys been doing this long enough that you know where to look?
Or is it a case of "Damn, Bill! You forgot to count us!"
276 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:04:39am |
re: #275 SteveC
Unemployment rate, but supposedly it is a statical glitch. The Labor Department "Found" 500,000 jobs!
So...
... how do you find 500,000 jobs. Haven't you guys been doing this long enough that you know where to look?
Or is it a case of "Damn, Bill! You forgot to count us!"
Well, I once read that the Pentagon 'misplaced' one trillion dollars worth of equipment...
:D
277 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:05:17am |
re: #276 Varek Raith
Well, I once read that the Pentagon 'misplaced' one trillion dollars worth of equipment...
:D
They probably sold it and spent the proceeds on Pastrami... is it lunch time yet?
278 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:05:27am |
re: #276 Varek Raith
Well, I once read that the Pentagon 'misplaced' one trillion dollars worth of equipment...
:D
They lost a lug wrench?
279 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:06:13am |
re: #277 Locker
They probably sold it and spent the proceeds on Pastrami... is it lunch time yet?
Make Lunch, Not War!
280 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:06:22am |
re: #278 SteveC
They lost a lug wrench?
Whoa, way too expensive! I heard it was a paperclip. Camo paperclip.
/
281 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:06:26am |
re: #277 Locker
They probably sold it and spent the proceeds on Pastrami... is it lunch time yet?
Good point. I'm starving now.
282 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:06:53am |
re: #278 SteveC
How do you think they pay for Area 51?
283 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:07:28am |
re: #253 Obdicut
In the ceremony area, size doesn't matter. We had a combined income under 100/wk. Our wedding rings were just silver, but they've lasted 44 years.
284 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:07:38am |
re: #280 Varek Raith
Whoa, way too expensive! I heard it was a paperclip. Camo paperclip.
/
Hello!?!? It's CAMO! No wonder they couldn't find it.
285 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:08:09am |
re: #282 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
How do you think they pay for Area 51?
50% of it is paid for by the aliens. Joint venture of some sort, last I heard.
286 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:08:14am |
re: #232 Obdicut
Hey, random question for anyone that feels like answering:
How many people were at your wedding?
I'm still a bachelor.
My brother's was four.
Bride, Groom, Justice of the Peace, myself as a witness.
288 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:10:12am |
re: #285 Varek Raith
50% of it is paid for by the aliens. Joint venture of some sort, last I heard.
"Oh no, you did not fire that green shit at my plane!"
289 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:10:38am |
re: #288 SteveC
"Oh no, you did not fire that green shit at my plane!"
"Stupid alien! I coulda been at a barbecue!"
290 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:10:53am |
re: #288 SteveC
"Oh no, you did not fire that green shit at my plane!"
Upload a virus to it, problem solved.
;)
291 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:11:23am |
re: #290 Varek Raith
The green shit comes off the alien ship *after* you give it a virus...
292 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:11:39am |
re: #268 lawhawk
Yes, I definitely should say: Include a hunk of salt pork fat in there with it. Or duck fat.
So basically you've got your
Bison
Spice mix described above
Salt (saltpeter optional, in my opinion, unless you're really preserving it)
Fat, about two ounces per pound of bison.
Water
I normally throw a beer in because, hey, beer.
So step one: heat up the fat and render it a bit-- doesn't have to be a full render.
Step two: Pound the fat into the bison. This is fun.
Step three: Put the bison into the water in a sealable container (I use big plastic buckets). Weight the bison so it stays under, or just wedge it.
Step four: Add the salt to the water directly, put the spices in a cheesecloth bag and suspend them in the water.
Step five: Refrigerate it for three weeks.
Step six: Take out and soak it in cold water for an hour. Do this several times depending on how much salt you used. I normally do three.
Step seven: Soak again overnight in cold water.
Step eight: Cook low and slow. I tend to cook it in very-diluted wine, something not too aggressive, or in a light beer. You can use just water, in which case you'll want to use more spice above, probably. I generally simmer covered for three to four hours, depending on how much Bison, at the lowest possible simmer.
293 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:12:07am |
You're making us hungry!11!!
Spare us!11!
:)
294 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:12:16am |
re: #271 lawhawk
If you're into deli, you could always use this book as your guide.
WTF is the matter with you man? How in the hell can you be a Yankees and Giants fan and then support the forking Devils? You need some serious reprogramming and then several trips to The Garden for some Ranger games and we'll fix you right up.
Oh and btw... fuck the Mets... sorry Mrs Lawhawk :-)
295 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:12:44am |
re: #232 Obdicut
Hey, random question for anyone that feels like answering:
How many people were at your wedding?
Sounds like you are contemplating a desperate move. If so, congratulations.
296 | MrSilverDragon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:13:50am |
re: #290 Varek Raith
Upload a virus to it, problem solved.
;)
It's good to know that Alien Technology also runs on "C++".
298 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:14:23am |
re: #296 MrSilverDragon
It's good to know that Alien Technology also runs on "C++".
Lol, yeah, that part was a serious WTF moment!
XD
299 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:15:17am |
re: #296 MrSilverDragon
It's good to know that Alien Technology also runs on "C++".
That and what, no uber alien anti virus program?
300 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:16:04am |
re: #299 Varek Raith
That and what, no uber alien anti virus program?
There are aliens named Norton.
301 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:16:22am |
re: #298 Varek Raith
Lol, yeah, that part was a serious WTF moment!
XD
Laugh I just saw this movie again recently. The thing that blew my mind was the President's wife in the bunker. Doctor says "She's bleeding internally, maybe if we'd gotten to her sooner" and there she lays in her bed smiling and talking to hubby and kid without so much as an IV hooked up.
If that was ER they would have had 15 doctors in there screaming "I'm not gonna lose this one!". Even on Scrubs Dr Cox would have thrown some things and then fixed her up. The single worse effort by a doctor to save a patient in my memory of modern films.
302 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:16:26am |
re: #294 Locker
WTF is the matter with you man? How in the hell can you be a Yankees and Giants fan and then support the forking Devils? You need some serious reprogramming and then several trips to The Garden for some Ranger games and we'll fix you right up.
Oh and btw... fuck the Mets... sorry Mrs Lawhawk :-)
ultimate test of balls..go to the Garden for a Devils/ Ranger game. wear devils jersey, sit in blue seats...see how many minutes into the first period you can make it...lol
303 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:17:36am |
re: #300 SteveC
There are aliens named Norton.
There are no aliens named Norton.
Lord Vader, the stupid is strong in this one today.
304 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:18:11am |
re: #301 Locker
I like how in Terminator: Salvation (spoiler for those who haven't seen it)
they have all of the staff and technology to do a heart transplant in a field hospital.
305 | Soap_Man Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:18:16am |
Sorry if anyone already beat me to this, but it appears the Tea Party Convention has already started off nice and racist.
ABC News: Tea Party Fireworks: Speaker Rips McCain, Obama, 'Cult of Multiculturalism'
"The opening-night speaker at first ever National Tea Party Convention ripped into President Obama, Sen. John McCain and "the cult of multiculturalism," asserting that Obama was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country."
306 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:19:17am |
re: #297 Obdicut
Yes, I am. And thank you.
Well congratulations man! Just a bit more info because of our success and the ease of the production. We got married in Vegas and the bill was 5k for everything. Airfare, 4 nights in suite at the Paris in Vegas, married at Paris, Reception at Venetian in that restaurant at the end of gondola lane, flowers, limo from Paris to Venetian and back and a hair dresser even came to our room and did the wifey's hair.
Best 5k I ever spent and didn't have to worry about a thing. Travel agent hooked us up. It's not that practical if you have a huge list of guests... unless... of course your a looking for a great way to cut a huge number down to almost nothing.
307 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:19:29am |
re: #304 Mad Al-Jaffee
I like how in Terminator: Salvation (spoiler for those who haven't seen it)
they have all of the staff and technology to do a heart transplant in a field hospital.
*FACEPALM*
And I assume they just happen to have a compatible heart lying around.
308 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:20:05am |
re: #305 Soap_Man
Obama was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country."
Ah, he's just hearkening back to those lovely times of Jim Crow laws.
Also, I see he's adopted the far-left's strategy for winning voters from the other side: Tell them that they're really fucking stupid.
309 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:20:46am |
re: #297 Obdicut
Yes, I am. And thank you.
We got hitched by a municipal judge, with a court clerk and some guy (probably there to pay a fine or something) as witnesses.
Cost us all of $10.00, not including lunch and gas for the kia.
310 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:21:15am |
re: #294 Locker
Here's how - I went to Albany and became a Albany River Rats fan - they're the Devils farm team, and got to see 'em all grow up and join the big team... besides... the Rangers have pretty much sucked and been a disappointment my entire life except for 1994. They're back on the path to another 60+ years of disappointment...
As far as f-the mets, Wilpon and Minaya do that for me...
311 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:21:25am |
re: #302 Spider Mensch
ultimate test of balls..go to the Garden for a Devils/ Ranger game. wear devils jersey, sit in blue seats...see how many minutes into the first period you can make it...lol
Ahah they used to have (and maybe still do) this outline for the jumbotron that resembles shark teeth, as if you are looking out from inside a shark. The camera pans all over the arena playing the Jaws music, finds a fan in an opposing jersey, zooms in and then the teeth go CHOP!
... followed by fans throwing everything they can find at the offender... well at least in the blue seats.
LET'S GO RANGERS!
312 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:21:33am |
re: #306 Locker
Hee hee. She has a big family, so we can't get away with running off to Vegas, and I want to have the reception at the family house anyway. We're probably looking at a hundred awesome people or so. I'm just casting about for landmarks in the tossing sea of wedding prep.
313 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:21:38am |
This story needs more details, and possibly pic's.
Report details 'perverse' activity at Henry Co. jail
A two-year probe found a culture of sex, drugs and inappropriate behavior by employees at the Henry County Jail.
[Link: www.roanoke.com...]
A Henry County sheriff's deputy and a former deputy have been indicted for perjury by a special grand jury that uncovered numerous instances of misconduct at the Henry County Jail, including sexual contact between officers and inmates -- some of which was so "perverse" it was "outside the scope of criminal law," according to a report.
314 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:22:04am |
re: #309 Guanxi88
We got hitched by a municipal judge, with a court clerk and some guy (probably there to pay a fine or something) as witnesses.
Cost us all of $10.00, not including lunch and gas for the kia.
"Hey bro, I can't really afford this fine. But I got $10.... you wanna trade?"
315 | Soap_Man Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:22:04am |
re: #307 SteveC
*FACEPALM*
And I assume they just happen to have a compatible heart lying around.
Ha, yeah. I just saw it last week with my girlfriend. She's in medical school and kept talking about how impossible it would be to do a heart transplant under those circumstances. Her: "Everything is this movie is covered in shit and yet the have sterilized equipment to do a heart transplant? They have anti-rejection drugs lying around? He would die from infection in 72 hours, at the most."
316 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:22:10am |
I'm so tickled that folks got my reference.
317 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:22:38am |
good morning all!
Obdicut.. get outta here! Congrats! Our number was around 200. And I'm an antisocial mofo, so a lot of champagne was required to get through the evening.
318 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:23:01am |
re: #307 SteveC
Heart-O-matic vending machines are everywhere in the future.
319 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:23:03am |
re: #315 Soap_Man
Maybe they simultaneously solved the graft-versus-host disease problem, too. You know, whipped up some quick gene therapy or replaced her bone marrow stem cells.
320 | Jadespring Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:23:09am |
re: #232 Obdicut
Hey, random question for anyone that feels like answering:
How many people were at your wedding?
About 150 give or take. I'm not even sure about the actual count. There were people at my wedding that I didn't even know before it. I had a what I guess could be called a open community wedding. I did specifically invite some people but an open invitation went out as well. It was cool and didn't cost much at all because it was potluck and really relaxed. The only thing I spent money on was my clothes, tent and chair rental and the food our family brought. Everything else including stuff like the cake, flowers, music were all done by friends who offered before hand. Maybe 1500 bucks at the most which is peanuts considering the number of people who attended.
321 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:23:10am |
re: #313 RogueOne
This story needs more details, and possibly pic's.
Report details 'perverse' activity at Henry Co. jail
A two-year probe found a culture of sex, drugs and inappropriate behavior by employees at the Henry County Jail.[Link: www.roanoke.com...]
Them's is mah people!
322 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:23:24am |
At a conference in London last month, Afghan President Hamid Karzai invited the Taliban to a peace council and set out plans to lure fighters down from the hills in return for cash and jobs.
But in a statement posted on the Islamists' website (alemarah.info/english) on Thursday, the Taliban vowed to "collude" with no one.
SNIP
323 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:23:24am |
Global warming is real. But once again, we can see what happens when you have "scientist" who have gone far beyond science, and are more concerned with politics, prestige and personal gain they can make from bad science. As Ludwig so aptly put it on another thread...
re: #3 LudwigVanQuixote
Again, I can not overstate how terrible it is in the world of science to accuse someone of cooking their books. It is the prime thou shalt not of science. People who get caught doing it, and they always do are booted out of the field forever.
[snip]
It's time to clean house. The BBC once described Dr R.K Pachauri as “the world’s top climate scientist.” Dr R.K Pachauri is not a scientist, he is a former railroad engineer. He sits on the boards. Dr. R.K Pachauri Dr Pachauri occupies more than a score of such posts, acting as director or adviser to many of the bodies which play a leading role in what has become known as the international climate industry.
Dr R.K Pachauri has been asked to step down by a number of pro-AGW scientists. As Ludwig says above "...and they always do are, booted out of the field forever."
It's about time that Dr R.K Pachauri is "booted" out of the field. No better than the crazy religious right, who's belief overrides the practicality of denouncing people like Pat Robertson, the AGW "religionist" need to understand that there are High Priest in the AGW science that, like Pat Robertson, are more interested in politics, prestige and personal gain and not good science.
It's time to clean house.
324 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:23:40am |
Lol, Independence Day summed up very nicely!
Jeff Goldblum. Mission accomplished. That's all you need to say: Jeff Goldblum. It's like saying McGyver in the 80's. The Independence Day script ended: And then Jeff Goldblum Jeff Goldblummed the hell out of it, Will Smith lights cigar... The End. We know Jeff Goldblum is the world's best scientist... in movies, whatever wacky plan he comes up with will work. In cinema, Einstein's formula is E=mcGoldblum. The world didn't fight for its independence, Jeff Goldblum Jeff Goldblummed for his Jeff Goldblum. Goldblum!
325 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:24:38am |
re: #301 Locker
True, but the true video showing Mads Gilbert and some Palestinian "doc" ministering to a kid who was already dead probably tops that.
326 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:24:42am |
re: #317 cliffster
good morning all!
Obdicut.. get outta here! Congrats! Our number was around 200. And I'm an antisocial mofo, so a lot of champagne was required to get through the evening.
If you're a champagne fan, and looking to get where you're going a bit more quickly, might I suggest Old Blood 'n' Guts' favorite libation - the 170 (named for a German artillery piece):
In champagne flute:
1 part cognac
1 part champagne, chilled
Very nice, indeed, and a beverage featured prominently in my legendary birthday breakfast at the 4 seasons, lo, these many years ago.
327 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:24:47am |
re: #210 _RememberTonyC
DOW has dipped below 10k ... it's probably understandable as the market has had a good year. But if the GOP were in power, this dip below 10k would be topic number 1 on this weekend's yakker shows. We'll see if the hysteria from the media over this bad economic news is similar. And by the way, I am not happy the DOW is below 10k ... it hurts everyone when this happens.
Well everyone knows it is Scott Brown's fault since he was sworn in and then the Dow tanked.
/
Seriously though this is a problem from concerns about Germany, not the US just like last week the panty waists on Wall Street & overseas were fretting about China.
328 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:25:51am |
re: #297 Obdicut
Yes, I am. And thank you.
It's good to be married. good luck. best advice..3 words to remember..patience, respect, understanding....it can be a tough go sometimes, especially if you plan on having kids sometime, but the rewards and good times far outweigh the tough times.
329 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:26:38am |
re: #307 SteveC
*FACEPALM*
And I assume they just happen to have a compatible heart lying around.
They have a suitable donor.
I still enjoyed the movie, even though it was kind of silly at times.
330 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:26:43am |
Anyone see what the Farkers did to MTV yesterday? MTV is running a poll about where the next season of "Jersey Shore" should be filmed. The nice people at FARK got involved and now Detroit is KILLING the competition. (I've voted multiple times btw)
[Link: remotecontrol.mtv.com...]
331 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:26:55am |
re: #328 Spider Mensch
It's good to be married. good luck. best advice..3 words to remember..
patience, respect, understanding"Fine, you win."...it can be a tough go sometimes, especially if you plan on having kids sometime, but the rewards and good times far outweigh the tough times.
332 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:27:04am |
re: #317 cliffster
Thanks. It's been a long time in the making, too-- I first met my fiancee thirteen years ago. We went out, I treated her idiotically-- I was only twenty-- and dumped her when I realized I was completely in love with her, because it didn't fit with my tragic shtick back then. My excuse being that I was enormously depressed after my grandmother's death and thought I didn't deserve happiness.
So anyway, we didn't talk for about eight years after that, but I still thought about her every day. We finally got back into contact and found we still were completely in love and she had thought of me every day, too. After cautiously exploring that, she moved out here and in with me and it's been awesome ever since.
Of course if I could, I'd go back in time and tell my younger self not to be such an asshole and to hold onto her, but there's a certain grace to be gained by the years of separation. I know exactly what it feels like to not have her and miss her terribly, and it makes every day with her that much sweeter.
333 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:27:19am |
re: #328 Spider Mensch
It's good to be married. good luck. best advice..3 words to remember..patience, respect, understanding...it can be a tough go sometimes, especially if you plan on having kids sometime, but the rewards and good times far outweigh the tough times.
You forgot to mention to make sure she has a hot sister.
334 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:27:37am |
re: #328 Spider Mensch
It's good to be married. good luck. best advice..3 words to remember..patience, respect, understanding...it can be a tough go sometimes, especially if you plan on having kids sometime, but the rewards and good times far outweigh the tough times.
You know, that's really good advise. I use a simple three letter (three word) mantra to keep me focused on what's important as well.
C.A.T.
Calm
Accepting
Thankful
Whenever I get in a twist over something I try to stop, review those three words, emulate them and everything seems to improve, real fast. Nice one man.
335 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:27:57am |
re: #333 RogueOne
You forgot to mention to make sure she has a hot sister.
Ha! See, I lucked out, there: I married the hot sister.
336 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:29:05am |
re: #331 Guanxi88
well yeah..lol..I just worded it PC for the masses...)))))
337 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:30:00am |
re: #332 Obdicut
My wife and I are the product of one of them new-fangled Internet relationships. We were co-moderators on a tiny little message board that has since ceased to exist. It was about 550 miles driving distance between us, so we didn't get to meet up that often. As a result, we rarely spend a day apart from each other now that we're here, simply because we know how much it just plain SUCKS not being together.
338 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:30:04am |
re: #326 Guanxi88
If you're a champagne fan, and looking to get where you're going a bit more quickly, might I suggest Old Blood 'n' Guts' favorite libation - the 170 (named for a German artillery piece):
In champagne flute:
1 part cognac
1 part champagne, chilledVery nice, indeed, and a beverage featured prominently in my legendary birthday breakfast at the 4 seasons, lo, these many years ago.
sounds like a really good, I mean bad, I mean good, I mean bad idea
339 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:30:40am |
re: #336 Spider Mensch
well yeah..lol..I just worded it PC for the masses...)))
No point in sugar-coating the thing - we're all (mostly) adults here.
Nobody's a bargain, of course - it's realizing that I'm probably at least as much of an unreasonable bastard as my spouse is a whacky bitch that makes the thing work. Mutual respect, arrived at through self-loathing.
340 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:31:08am |
re: #334 Locker
You know, that's really good advise. I use a simple three letter (three word) mantra to keep me focused on what's important as well.
C.A.T.
Calm
Accepting
ThankfulWhenever I get in a twist over something I try to stop, review those three words, emulate them and everything seems to improve, real fast. Nice one man.
Well put, I like that, especially the "accepting" part. If being right is really important to people, they shouldn't get married.
341 | Jadespring Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:31:23am |
Oh I forgot. Congrats Odbicut!
I actually got married twice. The first being the one I just related and then a smaller ceremony when we traveled back to where I grew up. Mostly for all the people there who couldn't make it out to the first one but really wanted to be a part of it. It was the same sort of deal, with and open invite and whoever wanted to showed up, low key and just about celebrating with friends and family.
342 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:32:00am |
re: #338 cliffster
sounds like a really good, I mean bad, I mean good, I mean bad idea
Best of all is when you set up a barrage of them - tell you what, a couple rounds of that before 10 in the a.m., and one can be persuaded to do all manner of fool things.
343 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:32:03am |
Our wedding was probably 1500 bucks... peanuts punch and mints in the church basement.
Killer tailgate in the parking lot...
344 | SteveC Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:32:51am |
re: #337 thedopefishlives
My wife and I are the product of one of them new-fangled Internet relationships. We were co-moderators on a tiny little message board that has since ceased to exist. It was about 550 miles driving distance between us, so we didn't get to meet up that often. As a result, we rarely spend a day apart from each other now that we're here, simply because we know how much it just plain SUCKS not being together.
I joined an online Heart Defect support group last July. My new girlfriend is one of the officers of the group.
345 | reine.de.tout Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:32:57am |
re: #332 Obdicut
Thanks. It's been a long time in the making, too-- I first met my fiancee thirteen years ago. We went out, I treated her idiotically-- I was only twenty-- and dumped her when I realized I was completely in love with her, because it didn't fit with my tragic shtick back then. My excuse being that I was enormously depressed after my grandmother's death and thought I didn't deserve happiness.
So anyway, we didn't talk for about eight years after that, but I still thought about her every day. We finally got back into contact and found we still were completely in love and she had thought of me every day, too. After cautiously exploring that, she moved out here and in with me and it's been awesome ever since.
Of course if I could, I'd go back in time and tell my younger self not to be such an asshole and to hold onto her, but there's a certain grace to be gained by the years of separation. I know exactly what it feels like to not have her and miss her terribly, and it makes every day with her that much sweeter.
That time apart was absolutely necessary, imo, for you to have what you have now.
My wedding - 6 including the Roi & myself (we got married on St. Thomas USVI, very simple, on the beach at sunset)
346 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:33:50am |
347 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:34:44am |
re: #332 Obdicut
Thanks. It's been a long time in the making, too-- I first met my fiancee thirteen years ago. We went out, I treated her idiotically-- I was only twenty-- and dumped her when I realized I was completely in love with her, because it didn't fit with my tragic shtick back then. My excuse being that I was enormously depressed after my grandmother's death and thought I didn't deserve happiness.
So anyway, we didn't talk for about eight years after that, but I still thought about her every day. We finally got back into contact and found we still were completely in love and she had thought of me every day, too. After cautiously exploring that, she moved out here and in with me and it's been awesome ever since.
Of course if I could, I'd go back in time and tell my younger self not to be such an asshole and to hold onto her, but there's a certain grace to be gained by the years of separation. I know exactly what it feels like to not have her and miss her terribly, and it makes every day with her that much sweeter.
That's wonderful. Well, now you have a lifetime not to make an ass hole out of yourself and keep her :)
348 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:34:54am |
re: #345 reine.de.tout
we got married on St. Thomas USVI, very simple, on the beach at sunset
See, that's okay, but it cannot match the romantic wonder of the Providence, RI, Municipal Court building. We were married just before lunch.
(yeah, I like to do things up big and splashy like that)
349 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:35:13am |
re: #337 thedopefishlives
Yeah. She's heading off for an interview at MIT/Harvard today, and I'm all bummed about the three day separation we're facing. It's a good bummed though, you know? And at least she'll be staying at my parent's apartment over there, so I can know she'll be safe, sound, and extremely well-fed.
350 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:35:14am |
re: #343 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Our wedding was probably 1500 bucks... peanuts punch and mints in the church basement.
Killer tailgate in the parking lot...
'Bama fan?
351 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:35:41am |
re: #335 Guanxi88
Ha! See, I lucked out, there: I married the hot sister.
Same here. My wife has a much younger sister and I used to tease her about trading her in for the newer model once my spouse hits 35 or so. She thought it was funny until her sister turned out to look just like her with a larger bra size. Now I'm not allowed to joke about it anymore.
352 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:36:05am |
re: #332 Obdicut
That's a great story, thanks for putting it up. I will say, you were not by any means alone in being an idiot when you were 20. It's amazing what a bunch of self-indulgent drama queens most 20-year-olds are.
8 years almost always will take each of you in such different directions that you no longer have any chemistry. Hell, 8 years will do that to people that are married and "growing together", as they say. Amazing it didn't do that to you two.
353 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:36:28am |
re: #350 Decatur Deb
That hurts...
Actually the tailgate was a contention of my northern buds who couldn't imagine a wedding without at least a little vomiting.
354 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:37:37am |
re: #347 Walter L. Newton
It was really thinking about how foolishly I'd lost here that convinced me to swing my life around and climb out of the smoking hole that my grandmother's death had left in my life. I wanted to make myself a better person for her.
That As Good As It Gets line, basically.
355 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:37:42am |
re: #330 RogueOne
Anyone see what the Farkers did to MTV yesterday? MTV is running a poll about where the next season of "Jersey Shore" should be filmed. The nice people at FARK got involved and now Detroit is KILLING the competition. (I've voted multiple times btw)
[Link: remotecontrol.mtv.com...]
hahahahaha
That and The Congo, how awesome would that be?
Except I would hate for that group of morons to go anywhere overseas and be identified as Americans.
356 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:37:43am |
re: #347 Walter L. Newton
That's wonderful. Well, now you have a lifetime not to make an ass hole out of yourself and keep her :)
Consistency-of-Character upding.
357 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:38:22am |
re: #339 Guanxi88
Nobody's a bargain, of course - it's realizing that I'm probably at least as much of an unreasonable bastard as my spouse is a whacky bitch that makes the thing work. Mutual respect, arrived at through self-loathing.
never heard it described better.
358 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:38:58am |
re: #356 Decatur Deb
Consistency-of-Character upding.
Thanks. Plus my comment was meant in all sincerity... in my Mr. Crankypants sort of way.
360 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:40:13am |
For those interested, I posted a Reason piece last week on asset forfeiture. The same author has a piece in Slate now that has more details, like if you get assets seized in Indiana...you're screwed regardless of guilt.
[Link: www.slate.com...]
361 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:40:29am |
re: #330 RogueOne
Anyone see what the Farkers did to MTV yesterday? MTV is running a poll about where the next season of "Jersey Shore" should be filmed. The nice people at FARK got involved and now Detroit is KILLING the competition. (I've voted multiple times btw)
[Link: remotecontrol.mtv.com...]
I think they should go to Port Au Prince or Capetown, without any escorts or bodyguards.
362 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:41:01am |
re: #361 Mad Al-Jaffee
I think they should go to Port Au Prince or Capetown, without any escorts or bodyguards.
Pyongyang's lovely, I hear.
363 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:41:09am |
re: #354 Obdicut
It was really thinking about how foolishly I'd lost here that convinced me to swing my life around and climb out of the smoking hole that my grandmother's death had left in my life. I wanted to make myself a better person for her.
That As Good As It Gets line, basically.
That's good, but don't forget, make sure you are the best person you can be for yourself first. Selfishness is not a bad trait, when used correctly. If you can't be a bit selfish and take care of yourself, you own well being, physical and mental stability, then you not worth anything to other people in your life.
Good luck.
364 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:41:17am |
re: #361 Mad Al-Jaffee
I think they should go to Port Au Prince or Capetown, without any escorts or bodyguards.
Send 'em into orbit.
:evilgrin:
365 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:41:51am |
re: #364 Varek Raith
Send 'em into orbit.
:evilgrin:
Waste of fuel. There's a recession on, or hadn't you heard?
366 | Decatur Deb Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:42:20am |
Lot of fun this AM, but the day calls. Later. (And congrats again.)
367 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:42:28am |
re: #365 Guanxi88
Waste of fuel. There's a recession on, or hadn't you heard?
You can fit them on one the the supply rockets to the ISS.
:)
368 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:42:28am |
re: #361 Mad Al-Jaffee
I think they should go to Port Au Prince or Capetown, without any escorts or bodyguards.
That's a good idea. I'd love to see those orange bastards wandering around Detroit after dark though. I'm betting it would put a quick end to the show.
369 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:42:52am |
re: #363 Walter L. Newton
Exactly right, Walter. In fact, the first thing I had to do was to learn to take care of myself so that other people could stop having to step in when I'd courted disaster too much.
Being selfish can also mean relieving others of that burden.
370 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:43:25am |
re: #368 RogueOne
Why do that to Detroit? Don't they have it bad enough?
371 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:43:48am |
re: #369 Obdicut
Exactly right, Walter. In fact, the first thing I had to do was to learn to take care of myself so that other people could stop having to step in when I'd courted disaster too much.
Being selfish can also mean relieving others of that burden.
Ok. I've held back as long as I could but now you have to post pics of you in your youth. I'm dying to see what a jewish-emo kid looks like.//
372 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:44:11am |
Okay, who herre: #362 Guanxi88
Pyongyang's lovely, I hear.
No beaches though. I'm suggesting sunny places, with lots of sand and surf.
373 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:44:14am |
re: #369 Obdicut
Exactly right, Walter. In fact, the first thing I had to do was to learn to take care of myself so that other people could stop having to step in when I'd courted disaster too much.
Being selfish can also mean relieving others of that burden.
Yep... fucking freaky Friday... we are agreeing on to many points.
374 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:44:39am |
re: #371 RogueOne
Ok. I've held back as long as I could but now you have to post pics of you in your youth. I'm dying to see what a jewish-emo kid looks like.//
Woody Allen!
375 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:45:58am |
re: #372 Mad Al-Jaffee
Okay, who her
No beaches though. I'm suggesting sunny places, with lots of sand and surf.
Nonsense - the capital of DPRK is forever illuminated by the shining wisdom and guidance of Great leader and Dear Leader, and the masses cannot but bask in the warm glow of Juche as they ride the great tide of history to victory over counter-revolutionary imperialists and their running dogs in the south.
376 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:46:05am |
re: #373 Walter L. Newton
Yep... fucking freaky Friday... we are agreeing on to many points.
freaky friday indeed - Walter as Ann Landers. oooohh my head
377 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:46:32am |
re: #371 RogueOne
Heh. I'm half-Jewish and half Scandinavian ancestry, and the Jewish part is Sephardic, so it normally takes another Jew to figure out that I'm Jewish. I've got a pretty Scandanavian head-- also known as a blockhead.
I basically just look like Robert Downey Jr. So think of him as a kid, and you pretty much get me. Except I'm bigger.
378 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:47:43am |
re: #325 lawhawk
True, but the true video showing Mads Gilbert and some Palestinian "doc" ministering to a kid who was already dead probably tops that.
Oh, I remember that. Cruel and callous.
379 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:48:06am |
380 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:49:29am |
re: #379 Mad Al-Jaffee
Just like Scarlett Johansen!
I've never seen obdicut, but I'm prepared to hazard a guess that he's nothing like Miss Johansen.
381 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:49:59am |
re: #369 Obdicut
Exactly right, Walter... [snip]re: #377 Obdicut
Heh. I'm half-Jewish and half Scandinavian ancestry, and the Jewish part is Sephardic, so it normally takes another Jew to figure out that I'm Jewish. I've got a pretty Scandanavian head-- also known as a blockhead.
I basically just look like Robert Downey Jr. So think of him as a kid, and you pretty much get me. Except I'm bigger.
And before we start hugging each other or some other yucky thing, make sure you read my re: #323 Walter L. Newton... I wrote it all up just for you.
Blockhead? That's as bad as using the words "fucking retarded." Really, when I was growing up in Brooklyn in the 50's, you were know as squareheads.
My dad was a drunk. He was drunk the morning I was born. They went across the street from the hospital to get him out of the bar he was in. When they showed him the baby (me), wisps of blond hair (no blonds in the family) and considering we lived in a largely Scandinavian neighborhood in Brooklyn, he told the nurse... "That's not my fucking kid, that's some damn squarehead's kid."
382 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:50:01am |
re: #377 Obdicut
Heh. I'm half-Jewish and half Scandinavian ancestry, and the Jewish part is Sephardic, so it normally takes another Jew to figure out that I'm Jewish. I've got a pretty Scandanavian head-- also known as a blockhead.
I basically just look like Robert Downey Jr. So think of him as a kid, and you pretty much get me. Except I'm bigger.
Jews: it takes one to know one?!?
383 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:50:44am |
Queens girl Alexa Gonzalez hauled out of school in handcuffs after getting caught doodling on desk
[Link: www.nydailynews.com...]
A 12-year-old Queens girl was hauled out of school in handcuffs for an artless offense - doodling her name on her desk in erasable marker, the Daily News has learned.
.......
City officials acknowledged Alexa's arrest was a mistake."We're looking at the facts," said City Education Department spokesman David Cantor. "Based on what we've seen so far, this shouldn't have happened."
"Even when we're asked to make an arrest, common sense should prevail, and discretion used in deciding whether an arrest or handcuffs are really necessary," said police spokesman Paul Browne.
Maybe if they were able to fire idiot cops this stuff wouldn't happen so often, but I doubt it.
384 | Ericus58 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:51:14am |
re: #146 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Wish the athletes wore stuff like that in Curling.
No... you do not.... I've been to curling rinks and it's not that removed from a bowling alley...
385 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:51:59am |
386 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:52:03am |
This all must have something to do with the new math I heard about... Job losses continue but rate falls." This article actually hurts my head to read...
[Link: money.cnn.com...]
387 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:52:52am |
Heh. Emanuel opposed holding trials for KSM in federal court; overruled by Obama and Holder. At least one guy in the Administration knew that this would be a bad political hit and unforced error that would pit the NY delegation (mostly Democrats) against the Administration. And given that Holder and Obama both are on the record saying that they would still use tribunals for certain cases, the rationale to hold some in trials makes little sense except as a political statement - which gets undermined when you raise the ire of one of the largest contingents (the NY delegation).
388 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:53:18am |
re: #377 Obdicut
I basically just look like Robert Downey Jr. So think of him as a kid, and you pretty much get me. Except I'm bigger.
well, huba huba then....
389 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:53:55am |
390 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:54:15am |
391 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:54:19am |
re: #386 Walter L. Newton
Here's something about that that will really bake your noodle.
393 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:56:59am |
re: #383 RogueOne
How about firing the idiot teachers and bureaucrats that push this to a level of criminality. And that's not even the most egregious example this week in NYC public schools. That honor goes to the kid who got himself nearly suspended for having brought a toy gun to school - a less than 2 inch long Lego toy gun. The parents are contemplating a lawsuit.
Common sense is an endangered species.
394 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:58:46am |
Awesome:
" The opening-night speaker at first ever National Tea Party Convention ripped into President Obama, Sen. John McCain and “the cult of multiculturalism,” asserting that Obama was elected because “we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country.”
The speaker, former Rep. Tom Tancredo, R-Colo., told about 600 delegates in a Nashville, Tenn., ballroom that in the 2008 election, America “put a committed socialist ideologue in the White House … Barack Hussein Obama.”
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
395 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 7:59:27am |
re: #393 lawhawk
Remember the kid who was suspended for pointing a chicken nugget at ahother kid in school and saying "Pow!"?
396 | Gus Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:00:18am |
I see the DJI is hovering at or above 10,000 this morning.
9,988.05 as I type.
397 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:00:42am |
re: #393 lawhawk
How about firing the idiot teachers and bureaucrats that push this to a level of criminality. And that's not even the most egregious example this week in NYC public schools. That honor goes to the kid who got himself nearly suspended for having brought a toy gun to school - a less than 2 inch long Lego toy gun. The parents are contemplating a lawsuit.
Common sense is an endangered species.
I'm telling you - all this stuff is just a small scale version of Dr. Benway's Total Demoralization:
"Dr. Benway had been called in as advisor to the Freeland Republic, a place given over to free love and continual bathing. The citizens are well adjusted, co-operative, honest, tolerant and above all clean. But the invoking of Benway indicates all is not well behind that hygienic facade: Benway is a manipulator and coordinator of symbol systems, an expert on all phases of interrogation, brainwashing, and control. I have not seen Benway since his precipitate departure from Annexia, where his assignment had been T.D. -- Total Demoralization. Benway's first act was to abolish concentration camps, mass arrest, and, except under certain limited and special circumstances, the use of torture.
"I deplore brutality," he said. "It's not efficient. On the other hand, prolonged mistreatment, short of physical violence, gives rise, when skillfully applied, to anxiety and a feeling of special guilt. A few rules or rather guiding principles are to be borne in mind. The subject must not realize that the mistreatment is a deliberate attack of an anti-human enemy on his personal identity. He must be made to feel that he deserves any treatment he receives because there is something (never specified) horribly wrong with him. The naked need of the control addicts must be decently covered by an arbitrary and intricate bureaucracy so that the subject cannot contact his enemy direct."
Every citizen of Annexia was required to apply for and carry on his person at all times a whole portfolio of documents. Citizens were subject to be stopped in the street at any time; and the Examiner, who might be in plain clothes, often in a bathing suit or pyjamas, sometimes sometimes stark naked except for a badge pinned to his left nipple, after checking each paper would stamp it. [...CUT...]
Documents issued in vanishing ink faded into old pawn tickets. New documents were constantly required. The citizens rushed from one bureau to another in a frenzied attempt to meet impossible deadlines.
All benches were removed from the city, all fountains turned off, all flowers and trees destroyed. Huge electric buzzers on top of every apartment house (everyone lived in apartments) rang the quarter hour. Often the vibrations would throw people out of bed. Searchlights played over the town all night (no one was permitted to use curtains, shutters or blinds). [...CUT...]
After a few months of this the citizens cowered in corners like neurotic cats."
399 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:00:51am |
re: #393 lawhawk
Common sense is an endangered species.
This might become my new favorite saying, replacing "People are STUPID."
400 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:01:46am |
I meant to post this yesterday but I didn't get a chance. The Innocence Project got it's 250th exoneration:
Innocence Project: DNA exonerates man in ‘76 rape conviction
[Link: rocnow.com...]
DNA evidence has exonerated a Rochester man who more than three decades ago was convicted for a rape he didn’t commit.State Supreme Court Justice David Egan today vacated the 1976 conviction of Frederick “Freddie” Peacock, who was convicted of raping a neighbor.
Peacock, now 60, was paroled from prison in 1982. However, he continued to insist he was innocent and, in 2002, attracted the Innocence Project to the case, according to Innocence Project spokesman Eric Ferrero.
Another case of mistaken eye-witness testimony. Props on the prosecutor for doing the right thing in this case by helping clear his name.
401 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:02:29am |
re: #391 lawhawk
Here's something about that that will really bake your noodle.
Typical... it's wonderful, Paul Harvey was famous for giving us "the rest of the story" and the Obama administration has to give us "half of the story" in order to prove that their policies are working.
I'm not in step with the Tea Party type thinking, I'm not with the far left progressives like John Dean who literally has suggest that socialism is the way to go, but really, the people in the street HAS to do something about all of this.
Folks... these people are lying to all of us. Not just to conservative, not just to liberal, but to all of us, and if we let this continue, we are all going to be looking back at each other from the same shit truck.
Get smart, get rid of ALL OF THEM.
402 | filetandrelease Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:03:32am |
India gets it. Good for them, can't wait for their report to come out in November.
“There is a fine line between climate science and climate evangelism. I am for climate science. I think people misused [the] IPCC report, [the] IPCC doesn’t do the original research which is one of the weaknesses… they just take published literature and then they derive assessments, so we had goof-ups on Amazon forest, glaciers, snow peaks.
“I respect the IPCC but India is a very large country and cannot depend only on [the] IPCC and so we have launched the Indian Network on Comprehensive Climate Change Assessment (INCCA),” he said.
The body, which he said will not rival the UN’s panel, will publish its own climate assessment in November this year, with reports on the Himalayas, India’s long coastline, the Western Ghat highlands and the north-eastern region close to the borders with Bangladesh, Burma, China and Nepal. “Through these we will demonstrate our commitment to climate science,” he said.
The UN panel’s claims of glacial meltdown by 2035 “was clearly out of place and didn’t have any scientific basis,” he said, while stressing the government remained concerned about the health of the Himalayan ice flows. “Most glaciers are melting, they are retreating, some glaciers, like the Siachen glacier, are advancing. But overall one can say incontrovertibly that the debris on our glaciers is very high the snow balance is very low. We have to be very cautious because of the water security particularly in north India which depends on the health of the Himalayan glaciers,” he added.
403 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:04:17am |
I heard this morning that on the John Edwards "sex tape" that you can hear Edwards moaning and making little passionate noises and that's just when he he combing his hair before getting into bed.
404 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:04:20am |
re: #393 lawhawk
How about firing the idiot teachers and bureaucrats that push this to a level of criminality. And that's not even the most egregious example this week in NYC public schools. That honor goes to the kid who got himself nearly suspended for having brought a toy gun to school - a less than 2 inch long Lego toy gun. The parents are contemplating a lawsuit.
Common sense is an endangered species.
Or an orange cap gun. This one brought out the SWAT team.
[Link: news.yahoo.com...]
VANCOUVER, Wash. – The initial 911 report from the Vancouver, Wash., elementary school was alarming: shots fired at a school playground. That had police and SWAT officers scrambling Tuesday morning — only to find the weapon was a bright orange cap gun.Police and school officials say a second-grade boy at Eleanor Roosevelt Elementary School brought the gun and apparently pointed it at two 6-year-olds and fired it, discharging smoke.
405 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:04:26am |
re: #385 Mad Al-Jaffee
Thoughtful Nation Questioning Whether Anyone Can Really 'Win' The Super Bowl
Oh, good grief. Before i saw that it was an Onion piece, I asked myself, "Hey! Why not give EVERYONE a Super Bowl ring?"
406 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:04:58am |
re: #405 MandyManners
Oh, good grief. Before i saw that it was an Onion piece, I asked myself, "Hey! Why not give EVERYONE a Super Bowl ring?"
Second term, Mandy. Can't do everything in one term.
//
407 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:05:09am |
408 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:05:45am |
re: #391 lawhawk
Here's something about that that will really bake your noodle.
I wondered about that this morning when I had heard the unemployment rate had dropped.
Of course the unemployment rate is always higher in reality then what is reported because of the folks who just give up and quit looking for a job.
409 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:05:55am |
re: #405 MandyManners
Oh, good grief. Before i saw that it was an Onion piece, I asked myself, "Hey! Why not give EVERYONE a Super Bowl ring?"
"Everyone wins!"
-Will Ferrell as the soccer coach, King of the Hill
411 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:06:49am |
re: #387 lawhawk
Heh. Emanuel opposed holding trials for KSM in federal court; overruled by Obama and Holder.
Notice how Holder said yesterday that this was *his* decision?
412 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:07:14am |
Starting to snow pretty hard here in Central Indiana. I'm starting to get really upset I had to miss the Miami trip. My guys keep sending me pics of the beach to rub it in.
413 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:07:49am |
re: #412 RogueOne
Starting to snow pretty hard here in Central Indiana. I'm starting to get really upset I had to miss the Miami trip. My guys keep sending me pics of the beach to rub it in.
Yeah, well, when the Colts win on Sunday, it'll all be worth it.
414 | filetandrelease Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:08:58am |
415 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:10:08am |
re: #150 ryannon
If Ryannon is still here I'm not getting a link to the video you posted.
416 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:10:12am |
re: #384 Ericus58
No... you do not... I've been to curling rinks and it's not that removed from a bowling alley...
The humor in that appears to have completely missed everybody...
417 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:11:13am |
Cherry pie... still warm from the oven.
Vanilla ice cream.
Yup.
419 | Douchecanoe and Ryan Too Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:11:48am |
re: #417 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Cherry pie... still warm from the oven.
Vanilla ice cream.
Yup.
Fresh Panera bagels - and my coworker bought. OM NOM NOM.
420 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:12:24am |
re: #402 filetandrelease
India gets it. Good for them, can't wait for their report to come out in November.
The High Priests of climate science, like Dr Rajendra Pachauri, head of the IPCC and Phil Jones, head of the Climate Research Unit at East Anglia University are no better than people like Pat Robertson. They have no concern for good science, they are only concerned with politics, prestige and personal gain.
AGW is real... these people, these organizations, some who have set the bar for climate change need to be removed. As some of our Lizards who explain the possible tragedies that may await us if we don't stop global warming, then we certainly don't need to be wasting resources and money supporting charlatans like this.
We need to clean house, now.
421 | filetandrelease Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:13:50am |
re: #10 LudwigVanQuixote
The earth will turn against us as if it were a living foe. We are facing a doom of fire and water, famine, drought and plague. It will be all around the world. There will be no place to go and no respite. People will go to bed at night wishing that the day had only been suffering as terrible as the day before that. Billions will die in a pandemic catastrophe of biblical proportions.
And you wonder why it is so hard to take you serious any more.
422 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:13:52am |
re: #403 Walter L. Newton
I heard this morning that on the John Edwards "sex tape" that you can hear Edwards moaning and making little passionate noises and that's just when he he combing his hair before getting into bed.
The MFM ignored the Edwards story for ages. Now, let's see how long it will be before the national MFM ignore the story about Illinois' lieutenant governor?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
423 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:14:00am |
I'd tap that....
[Link: wcco.com...]
A Maple Grove couple is battling a park district over whether the couple has the right to continue tapping maple trees that used to be part of their farm.Don and Elaine O'Brien, who are in their late 80s, have been harvesting sap for 30 years. The O'Briens believed they retained that right in 1981 when they sold 50 acres for a trail in Three Rivers Park District.
Mmmm, syrup.
425 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:14:23am |
426 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:15:24am |
re: #408 webevintage
Unemployment rates are always based on two things - the number of people unemployed and the size of the workforce. If you add numbers to the size of the workforce, you can make the rate appear to dip, even if the number of people unemployed hasn't changed (or risen) so long as the size of the workforce increases even more.
The surprise isn't that the rates changed; revisions are common as more information comes in. It's the size of the changes that raises eyebrows.
427 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:16:24am |
re: #421 filetandrelease
And you wonder why it is so hard to take you serious any more.
(And in case you missed these new articles that I posted yesterday, please read)
Hopefully the principles involved in these articles will be booted out of the field forever, because they have abused the trust of both their fellow scientist and the general public that supports them through grants and other public funding.
I have been harping on the importance of clean, transparent science, a high standard of process, procedure and protocol. Yet there are those believers, acting no differently than a crazed religious person, who will turn a blind eye to theses machinations and try to protect their High Priest of science until they crumble.
These articles linked to below are from the Guardian, far from a conservative newspaper. These articles linked to below are not editorial or commentary, they are investigative reports from Fred Pearce, who Fred Pearce is an environment writer and author of The Last Generation: How nature will take her revenge for climate change.
Fred Pearce is not a denier, he is at the forefront of disseminating AGW to the public, and he is very concerned about the future. But he is also concerned that scientist like those mentioned in these articles have damaged the integrity of the science, and, if you care anything about AGW and the future of our planet, you will be on his side in exposing these certain scientist for what they are, self serving idiots who really have no interest in good science.
Go ahead, call me a AGW denier... if that's so, then I keep good company with the Guardian, Fred Pearce and many other scientist around the world who have had enough of these mavericks and wants something done before the issue becomes irreparable.
This is the ONLY issue I have with the people and organizations mentioned in these articles. I have NO issue with the body of respectable scientist world wide who find no need to deceive and obstruct.
428 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:16:29am |
re: #409 Mad Al-Jaffee
"Everyone wins!"
-Will Ferrell as the soccer coach, King of the Hill
The first time The Kid realized everyone in T-ball was getting a trophy, he piped up "winning isn't important so why try?".
429 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:17:47am |
re: #422 MandyManners
The MFM ignored the Edwards story for ages. Now, let's see how long the national MFM ignore the story about Illinois' lieutenant governor?
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
430 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:17:56am |
I don't know who the Munich American Peace Committee is, but they gave nutjob Cynthia McKinney an award.
[Link: www.reddingnewsreview.com...]
431 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:18:04am |
re: #421 filetandrelease
And you wonder why it is so hard to take you serious any more.
and Republicans are the embodiment of pure evil.
432 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:18:06am |
re: #421 filetandrelease
Well, we could always take the North Korean tact and go the route of deindustrialization and decapitalize. It's hard to add to carbon emissions and other pollutants when you're starving the population and are a subsistence nation that teeters on the edge of insanity.
433 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:18:23am |
434 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:19:24am |
re: #432 lawhawk
Well, we could always take the North Korean tact and go the route of deindustrialization and decapitalize. It's hard to add to carbon emissions and other pollutants when you're starving the population and are a subsistence nation that teeters on the edge of insanity.
Mmmmmmmm, tree bark.
435 | Daniel Ballard Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:19:51am |
A poll-On politico.com, in their Arena. As I post the the conclusion is 76% say liberals are more condescending, 9% say conservatives, and 13% said both. One those 13% was me.
Will the Lizardlanche alter the result? The link is under Politics and here
436 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:20:23am |
County Isn't Liable for Alleged Police Beating
[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]
San Bernardino County isn't liable for the actions of a few deputies who allegedly beat a Hispanic man and left him to bleed during their investigation of a possible cock fight, a federal judge in Los Angeles ruled.
......
As Galarza headed outside, an officer told him to stop and put his hands up. He said he was hit on the head with an unknown object, and someone kept beating him as he went down.
A deputy allegedly sat on him, handcuffed him, hit him in the face and kicked him.
He said he was moved inside the barn, where he began to cough up blood. A woman sitting next to him asked the officers to call an ambulance, but one officer allegedly replied, "Let the motherf--ker bleed. Let the motherf--king wetback choke on his own motherf--king blood the same way all these motherf--king wetbacks let roosters choke on their own blood."
Another officer said, "I should have shot this motherf--king wetback. I had him ready. I f--king had him," according to the complaint.
Lets see, the county hired them, trained them, gave them guns and badges, and put them on the street but they aren't responsible at all for their behavior. That is some pretty lousy logic.
437 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:20:56am |
re: #430 Mad Al-Jaffee
I don't know who the Munich American Peace Committee is, but they gave nutjob Cynthia McKinney an award.
[Link: www.reddingnewsreview.com...]
[Link: www.mapc-web.de...]
Introduction
The Munich American Peace Committee (MAPC) was formed in 1983, joining the growing West German peace movement's activities against the escalation of armaments in Europe. Membership grew as a result of the foreign (and domestic!) developments, reflected especially in militarism, unilateralism and the reduction of civil liberties and democratic rights. We monitor German and American policies affecting our lives as American citizens/German residents.
Principal goals
1. To increase availability of information, largely ignored by the media, concerning the diverse opinions existing in the U.S. We want to draw attention to the supporters of the American peace movement and its counterparts in Germany and the rest of the world.
2. To distribute this information through e-mail contacts, media interviews, newspaper articles, public appearances, and monthly Radio Lora programs.
3. To encourage our compatriots to join us in active participation in political life, to influence our governmental representatives here and in the United States to use peaceful means of settling differences and achieving productive cooperation.
4. To help disillusioned American soldiers who want to leave the military. We co-operate with the Mennonite-supported Military Counselling Network and other GI support groups. We raise money to support the counsellors' work and individual soldiers who need financial help for their legal fees. We give moral support by phone and email to the GIs and their families and help spread the word to GIs, most of whom are not aware of their rights to seek discharge as conscientious objectors.
Activities
Since our debut in 1983, we have continued to participate in the Easter Marches, blockades, demonstrations, and vigils at the Munich Consulate against US involvements such as in Irak and Afghanistan. We participate with the Munich Coalition of peace groups in the weekly vigil against war every Thursday afternoon at Richard-Strauss-Brunnen.
Themes
Our emphasis has included such subjects as: U.S.military intervention, disarmament, conversion, and non-violent resistance. More recently MAPC has focused on the worldwide effects of globalization, especially as a result of U.S. foreign policy.
Naturally, our activities increase during times of crisis. Thus we presently deal intensively with topics relating to the terrorist destruction of the World Trade Center and its aftermath, the conflict between Israel and Palestina, and the intensification of U.S. unilateralist policies.
Organization
MAPC meetings take place once a month to exchange information and ideas and to plan activities. We often have speakers or a special theme for discussion. We welcome new English-speaking participants!
In short - tofu-eating submissives.
438 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:22:47am |
re: #429 MandyManners
The MFM ignored the Edwards story for ages. Now, let's see how long the national MFM ignore the story about Illinois' lieutenant governor?
ewwww and yuck and what a bastard.
He needs to go away.
I'd like all the pols who are dicks who do things that hurt their wives and kids to go away like Spitzer did.
Just resign dude.
All of them. If you go see professional working girls while wearing a diaper you need to go away. If you are screwing someone who works for you and paying her hubby hush money, go away. If you are running for President and have a mistress while your wife has terminal cancer, for God's sake just go away.
439 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:25:23am |
re: #432 lawhawk
Well, we could always take the North Korean tact and go the route of deindustrialization and decapitalize. It's hard to add to carbon emissions and other pollutants when you're starving the population and are a subsistence nation that teeters on the edge of insanity.
Why do all that. It's easier for AGW supporters to simply deny there is any problem with some of the principle players in the AGW filed of science. It is easier for AGW supporters to simple deflect the conversation and call others AGW deniers.
Like I say above, I can barely see the difference between some of the AGW supporters who treat the science like a religion, and treat this High Priest of AGW like a right wing religionist will support Pat Robertson.
440 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:25:56am |
441 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:31:25am |
There must be a another strategy meeting going on? Kind of slow around here.
442 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:32:39am |
re: #441 Walter L. Newton
There must be a another strategy meeting going on? Kind of slow around here.
It's friday, man
443 | American-African Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:33:43am |
I posted this in the Tea Partiers thread, but want to be sure prople know about it.
Invoking ‘literacy test,’ Tea Party opening speaker suggests disenfranchising voters
444 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:34:26am |
re: #443 American-African
I posted this in the Tea Partiers thread, but want to be sure prople know about it.
Invoking ‘literacy test,’ Tea Party opening speaker suggests disenfranchising voters
and I replied in the same thread.. The headline says the speaker suggested keeping blacks from voting. Really? Show me the text of the speech where he says blacks should be kept from voting.
445 | Feline Emperor of the Conservative Waste Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:35:01am |
re: #372 Mad Al-Jaffee
Angola maybe?
446 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:35:12am |
re: #442 cliffster
It's friday, man
No, I have a different idea. I've noticed during the last week, with all these revelations of bullshit going on with the CRU and the IPCC, revelations by Fred Pearce, far from a AGW denier, that the normal players on LGF who would usually be screaming and trying to deflect the topic, they have become very quiet. Interesting, makes me wonder.
I haven't.
447 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:38:01am |
Hey, if you haven't? Read the Top comment... ding it....
448 | Daniel Ballard Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:38:24am |
Guilty laugh this morning...But wait until you see what he says about Teabaggers and Beck! OMG.
[Link: www.buffalobeast.com...]
27. Barack Obama
Charges: At the end of his first year as president, Obama’s major accomplishment is still having been elected in the first place. Since then, it’s all been Reaganesque speechifying, Clintonesque triangulation, and Bushian spin. His cabinet is packed with the deregulation-mad bankers who created our recession and then “fixed” it by heaving pallets of cash at their former employers. His penchant for bipartisanship, once a quaint campaign pretense, has become an agenda-hobbling obsession. He buzzed still-edgy New Yorkers with a few airplanes to snap a $300,000 promo pic any kid could’ve photoshopped in five minutes. Obama campaigned for a “robust public option” and importing cheaper drugs, closing Gitmo, ending no-bid contracts and backroom deals with corporate lobbyists—and he was going to do it on CSPAN. But he’s done none of those things, and his policies on extraordinary rendition, illegal wiretapping and state secrets are pure Bush. Socialist? We should be so lucky.
Exhibit A: “The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system.”
Sentence: A second term of crazed right-wing abuse.
SNIP
449 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:40:32am |
re: #447 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Hey, if you haven't? Read the Top comment... ding it...
What are you talking about. The top comment is on the use of the word "retard." My comment was on AGW and how some Lizards have gone "quiet" in regards to certain parts of the issue... how are you making the connection?
450 | The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:41:58am |
Here's a backgrounder on the origins of the Tea Parties from Yahoo News.
451 | American-African Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:42:38am |
re: #444 cliffster
Show me the text of the speech where he says blacks should be kept from voting.
I did not agree with that comment, which is why I did not say "blacks". The intent is to disenfranchise voters, though. Not specifically by race.
452 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:44:26am |
re: #449 Walter L. Newton
Huh?
I thought it's a wonderful comment, well written, and inspired.
I'm not smart enough to understand AGW. I do understand kindness and ding my butt off at it, and encourage others to do so.
453 | The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:44:35am |
re: #441 Walter L. Newton
There must be a another strategy meeting going on? Kind of slow around here.
It's gray and rainy here. Makes it hard to keep my mind off my work.
454 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:45:25am |
re: #451 American-African
I did not agree with that comment, which is why I did not say "blacks". The intent is to disenfranchise voters, though. Not specifically by race.
The headline said specifically that he said blacks should be kept from voting. The headline. That's garbage. I'm surprised that you would link to something like that, even if you agree with some of the content.
455 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:45:44am |
re: #452 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Huh?
I thought it's a wonderful comment, well written, and inspired.
I'm not smart enough to understand AGW. I do understand kindness and ding my butt off at it, and encourage others to do so.
If you are asking me to up ding the comment on "not using the 'retarded' word," well, hell no, I certainly won't up ding it. I hate the word, but, it seems that the consensus here is the word is fine. So, I'll play to the room, if the liberals here have no problem with the word "retarded," then they shouldn't have any problems with some other words that may come up. Let's see what happens.
456 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:45:54am |
re: #449 Walter L. Newton
I admire the amount of study you guys do on this, and the various passions associated.
It just doesn't interest me.
You are an amazing lizard. I read every other word you write.
457 | stevemcg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:46:29am |
re: #442 cliffster
It's friday, man
It's Wing Bowl 18. Snooky got booed mercilessly. Katie Morgan got cheered. Some guy ate 238 chicken wings. Snooky was in a bad mood to begin with. She said she's used to flying first class, but she had to fly here in coach and got stuck between two fat guys.
458 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:46:59am |
re: #456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I admire the amount of study you guys do on this, and the various passions associated.
It just doesn't interest me.
You are an amazing lizard. I read every other word you write.
Oh stop that :)
459 | American-African Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:48:42am |
re: #454 cliffster
I'm surprised that you would link to something like that, even if you agree with some of the content.
The headline was clearly intended to shock and blows the article out of proportion. The article has value in that the spirit of the speaker is not overemphasized. This is a real politician, talking about finding ways to hurt individual voters. How can you not think this worthy of linking?
460 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:48:46am |
re: #458 Walter L. Newton
You can't fight with me. First? I am a coward. Second? Well, I never stay around long enough to explain number two.
461 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:48:52am |
re: #456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I admire the amount of study you guys do on this, and the various passions associated.
It just doesn't interest me.
You are an amazing lizard. I read every other word you write.
I'm with you on the "not interested" thing. Besides, to quote Fight Club, we're all polishing the brass on the Titanic anyways...
462 | stevemcg Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:49:45am |
re: #456 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I admire the amount of study you guys do on this, and the various passions associated.
It just doesn't interest me.
You are an amazing lizard. I read every other word you write.
That ______ make ____. Do ___ read ___ even ____ words __ the numbered ___?
463 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:50:01am |
re: #451 American-African
I did not agree with that comment, which is why I did not say "blacks". The intent is to disenfranchise voters, though. Not specifically by race.
Haven't African-Americans traditionally been the ones disenfranchised by literacy tests and poll taxes?
464 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:50:30am |
re: #462 stevemcg
Heh. AGW posts read like stereo instructions to me.
465 | American-African Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:51:32am |
re: #463 MandyManners
Haven't African-Americans traditionally been the ones disenfranchised by literacy tests and poll taxes?
Sure that is true, however there are plenty of other citizens who would fall victim to this scheme than black Americans.
466 | filetandrelease Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:51:53am |
re: #427 Walter L. Newton
Thanks for the links. You are correct, we need a fresh perspective with new leadership if for no other reason than to allay the general publics fear of being misled. . Did I understand you earlier that you have no faith in India's new climate change organization?
467 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:52:35am |
BBIA bit... got to get ready for work... I'm on my quick turn-a-round weekend. I work 1-9:30 today/tonight and have to be right back in the store for "half-price Saturday" at 7:30am.
You ever work at a large thrift store on "half-price Saturday?"
468 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:53:41am |
re: #459 American-African
The headline was clearly intended to shock and blows the article out of proportion. The article has value in that the spirit of the speaker is not overemphasized. This is a real politician, talking about finding ways to hurt individual voters. How can you not think this worthy of linking?
Because it tells an absolute lie, that's why. If I saw an article headlined, "Obama says Mexicans should be put in concentration camps" and then has a nice commentary on the economic relations between the US and Mexico, I would not link to it, even if I agreed with the economic analysis.
470 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:54:58am |
re: #466 filetandrelease
Thanks for the links. You are correct, we need a fresh perspective with new leadership if for no other reason than to allay the general publics fear of being misled. . Did I understand you earlier that you have no faith in India's new climate change organization?
No, I never stated that. I have no faith in the IPCC and the CRU. How can I have an opinion on an organization that hasn't even been formed yet, or has published any science?
471 | darthstar Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:57:11am |
Had to run up to the city this morning...was a good excuse to stop at Dynamo and pick up a maple-bacon donut. mmmm...
472 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:58:16am |
re: #469 filetandrelease
He appears to have such a great mind. I do not understand why he cannot see that his emotions tarnish his ability to articulate his thoughts.
Not all of the virtues are mutually compatible. This is the source of tragedy, and the chief thing, other than mortality, that prevents apotheosis.
473 | filetandrelease Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:59:22am |
re: #432 lawhawk
The whole hunter gatherer life style is very appealing.
474 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 8:59:38am |
re: #431 cliffster
and Republicans are the embodiment of pure evil.
"The heads. You're looking at the heads, aren't you? Sometimes he goes too far. He's the first to admit it."
475 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:00:23am |
re: #455 Walter L. Newton
Read comment #1 on this thread, posted by Floral Giraffe .
476 | filetandrelease Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:02:08am |
re: #470 Walter L. Newton
Got the scientist mixed up, reread your statement.
477 | The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:04:10am |
re: #473 filetandrelease
The whole hunter gatherer life style is very appealing.
Not if you want to live longer than your waist size number.
478 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:04:12am |
Hey, man, you don't talk to the Colonel. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet-warrior in the classic sense. I mean, sometimes he'll, uh, well, you'll say "Hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you, and he won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? 'If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you'..." – I mean, I'm no, I can't – I'm a little man, I'm a little man, he's, he's a great man. I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas – I mean....
479 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:04:43am |
There's something happening out here, man. You know something, man? I know something you that you don't know. That's right, Jack. The man is clear in his mind, but his soul is mad. Oh, yeah. He's dying, I think. He hates all this. He hates it! But the man's a...He reads poetry out loud, all right. And a voice...he likes you because you're still alive. He's got plans for you. No, I'm not gonna help you. You're gonna help him, man. You're gonna help him. I mean, what are they gonna sat when he's gone? 'Cause he dies when it dies, when it dies, he dies! What are they gonna say about him? He was a kind man? He was a wise man? He had plans? He had wisdom? Bullshit, man! And am I gonna be the one that's gonna set them straight? Look at me! Look at me! Wrong! [points to Willard] You!
480 | American-African Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:05:01am |
re: #468 cliffster
The article says Tom Tancredo invoked the loaded pre-civil rights era buzzword, saying that President Barack Obama was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country."
Saying we do not have tests before people can vote clearly implies what the article said it does. That is not a lie. I agree the headline was salacious, the suggestion implied by Tancredo is what I find dusturbing. People need to know it is out there and Tancredo should be given an opportunity to explain if that comment was taken out of context.
I want to know what he meant by that.
482 | filetandrelease Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:06:51am |
re: #472 Guanxi88
Not all of the virtues are mutually compatible. This is the source of tragedy, and the chief thing, other than mortality, that prevents apotheosis.
OK, I have read that a few times. Are you say God has no emotions?
483 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:07:27am |
re: #480 American-African
Well, it might be that he was suggesting that a fundamentally uninformed electorate might not always be relied upon to vote in a manner consistent with the principles of a limited and republican form of government.
It might even be that he was suggesting the ability of the electorate to be able to read and comprehend what they read would be desirable.
484 | filetandrelease Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:07:35am |
re: #477 The Sanity Inspector
We of course were joking.
485 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:07:53am |
re: #421 filetandrelease
And you wonder why it is so hard to take you serious any more.
Except that actually is the science that you refuse to see and refuse to believe.
Paper after paper is linked to you. Film of gouts of methane flame coming out of Siberian lakes is presented here. Glaciers that normally move so slowly that the word glacial means unperceivably slow in common language have receded kilometers. There are more and more storms of greater magnitude seen each decade. This all in the data and your own life, if you could only look up from whatever blind - and it must be insanely blind existence you have.
You do not look. You do not read. You do not think.
At best you parrot the propaganda that suits your petty fears and hatreds.
At best all you do is plug your ears and insult those who not only tell you the truth but show you the data.
The word for you is pathetic moron. And as I have said again and again. People like you need to be discounted exactly the same way we discount flat earthers, nirthers, deathers, ID troglodytes and other sub standard intellects who spread dangerous and toxic nonsense.
I am exactly as polite to a moron like you as I need to be and as you deserve.
And you can only
486 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:08:17am |
re: #468 cliffster
Because it tells an absolute lie, that's why. If I saw an article headlined, "Obama says Mexicans should be put in concentration camps" and then has a nice commentary on the economic relations between the US and Mexico, I would not link to it, even if I agreed with the economic analysis.
I would with the comment "moron headline, interesting article"....
Hell there are always POS headlines on blogs, but that does not mean what the story says is also BS.
The headline should actually say "Crazy!Idiot Tancrado is still an Idiot."
Think Progress has a better, but boring headline:
Tancredo says Obama won because we lack a ‘literacy test before people can vote in this country.’
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
487 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:08:27am |
re: #483 Guanxi88
Well, it might be that he was suggesting that a fundamentally uninformed electorate might not always be relied upon to vote in a manner consistent with the principles of a limited and republican form of government.
It might even be that he was suggesting the ability of the electorate to be able to read and comprehend what they read would be desirable.
Translation - The American people don't know what's best for them.
Gee, where have I heard this before??? ;)
488 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:09:04am |
re: #480 American-African
I'm not even going to address what I think he meant, because it doesn't matter. The headline was an outright lie. If you feel comfortable linking that sort of thing, suit yourself.
489 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:09:45am |
re: #482 filetandrelease
OK, I have read that a few times. Are you say God has no emotions?
Well, based on what I was taught, no. We say that God has emotions because we are constrained by language, and must constantly make use of metaphors and equivocations in order to even begin to speak of the Divine.
Strictly speaking, though, and within the strand of the tradition to which I adhere, there is no emotion in God, as the term "emotion" is commonly understood and used when speaking of humans.
492 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:12:32am |
re: #486 webevintage
I would with the comment "moron headline, interesting article"...
Hell there are always POS headlines on blogs, but that does not mean what the story says is also BS.
The headline should actually say "Crazy!Idiot Tancrado is still an Idiot."
Think Progress has a better, but boring headline:
Tancredo says Obama won because we lack a ‘literacy test before people can vote in this country.’
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
Agreed Web & American African. Skip the semantics folks, and don't by proxy defend Tancrado.
493 | The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:12:43am |
494 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:12:45am |
495 | Buck Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:12:55am |
[Link: www.kyivpost.com...]
Ukraine’s bitter presidential campaign took an ugly turn this week as leaflets accusing Prime Minister Yulia Tymoshenko of being Jewish and encouraging voters not to cast ballots in her favor began to circulate in western Ukraine.
The flyer features Tymoshenko’s photograph with the words “Don’t Vote for a Jew!”
496 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:13:35am |
re: #483 Guanxi88
It might even be that he was suggesting the ability of the electorate to be able to read and comprehend what they read would be desirable.
Or it could just be that Tancredo is an asshole who hates American voters who do not vote the way he thinks they should.
But yeah, lit tests to vote is a dog whistle....
497 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:13:54am |
re: #491 LudwigVanQuixote
c'mon, man. Enough with the insults. It's all I hear lately.
498 | The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:13:58am |
499 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:13:59am |
re: #491 LudwigVanQuixote
Please.The only thing not accurate about the word retard in the context of so many of the posters here is that it does not fully convey the malice and arrogance of them.
Pretty malicious, and definitely arrogant, don't you think?
500 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:14:39am |
re: #494 LudwigVanQuixote
Pretty well buddy! How are you!
I'm good. Hatches are batten down and the shovels are at the ready. Do your worst, old man winter!
:)
501 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:15:03am |
re: #496 webevintage
Or it could just be that Tancredo is an asshole who hates American voters who do not vote the way he thinks they should.
But yeah, lit tests to vote is a dog whistle...
On the first, yeah. that's pretty much any fanatic.
On the second, I doubt the ignorant types would understand or even hear it, or do you suggest they're well-educated enough to get the reference?
502 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:15:43am |
re: #501 Guanxi88
On the first, yeah. that's pretty much any fanatic.
On the second, I doubt the ignorant types would understand or even hear it, or do you suggest they're well-educated enough to get the reference?
Well, they are at the Tea Party convention./
503 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:16:11am |
re: #495 Buck
[Link: www.kyivpost.com...]
The flyer features Tymoshenko’s photograph with the words “Don’t Vote for a Jew!”
Yuck.
On the other hand Tymoshenko always looks fab.
She has this Eastern Europe High Fashion Goth look and cool braids.
504 | American-African Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:16:22am |
505 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:16:29am |
re: #485 LudwigVanQuixote
[snip]
The word for you is pathetic moron. And as I have said again and again. People like you need to be discounted exactly the same way we discount flat earthers, nirthers, deathers, ID troglodytes and other sub standard intellects who spread dangerous and toxic nonsense.
[snip]
People like Dr Rajendra Pachauri, Phil Jones, the IPCC and the CRU need to be discounted exactly the same way we discount flat earthers, nirthers, deathers, ID troglodytes and other sub standard intellects who spread dangerous and toxic nonsense.
506 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:16:29am |
re: #465 American-African
Sure that is true, however there are plenty of other citizens who would fall victim to this scheme than black Americans.
Even one is too many, no matter the color of the skin.
507 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:17:22am |
re: #501 Guanxi88
On the first, yeah. that's pretty much any fanatic.
On the second, I doubt the ignorant types would understand or even hear it, or do you suggest they're well-educated enough to get the reference?
I actually do.
Especially older ones from the South.
We know what reading tests before you vote are for.
508 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:17:51am |
(I can repeatly link and re-link to the same material over and over just like Ludwig does.)
Global warming is real. And so are the scientist who have gone far beyond science, and are more concerned with politics, prestige and personal gain they can make from bad science. As Ludwig so aptly put it on another thread...
re: #3 LudwigVanQuixote
Again, I can not overstate how terrible it is in the world of science to accuse someone of cooking their books. It is the prime thou shalt not of science.
People who get caught doing it, and they always do are booted out of the field forever.
[snip]
Hopefully the principle players and organizations involved in these articles will be booted out of the field forever, because they have abused the trust of both their fellow scientist and the general public that supports them through grants and other public funding.
I have been harping on the importance of clean, transparent science, a high standard of process, procedure and protocol. Yet there are those believers, acting no differently than a crazed religious person, who will turn a blind eye to theses machinations and try to protect their High Priest of science until they crumble.
These articles linked to below are from the Guardian, far from a conservative newspaper. These articles linked to below are not editorial or commentary, they are investigative reports from Fred Pearce. Fred Pearce is an environment writer and author of "The Last Generation: How nature will take her revenge for climate change."
Fred Pearce is not a denier, he is at the forefront of disseminating AGW information to the public, and he is very concerned about the future. But he is also concerned that scientist like those mentioned in these articles have damaged the integrity of the science, and, if you care anything about AGW and the future of our planet, you will be on his side in exposing these certain scientist for what they are, self serving idiots who really have no interest in good science.
Go ahead, call me a AGW denier... if that's so, then I keep good company with the Guardian, Fred Pearce and many other scientist around the world who have had enough of these mavericks and wants something done before the issue becomes irreparable.
This is the ONLY issue I have with the people and organizations mentioned in these articles. I have NO issue with the body of respectable scientist world wide who find no need to deceive and obstruct.
509 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:17:53am |
re: #497 cliffster
c'mon, man. Enough with the insults. It's all I hear lately.
NOt even close. Also, an insult is not so much of an insult if it is true. Denying the realities of AGW is no less stupid or crazy than denying evolution or that 2 and 3 make 5.
The only difference is that people do not know the basic science here as well as they should, or do, like they know about evolution or arithmetic.
No. He's a moron. Every damn thread on AGW, he has to come out with a retarded snark that displays utter ignorance and a refusal to learn or listen.
Too bad if it hurts the little troll's feelings. I will not treat patiently with stupid and arrogant fools who spread dangerous lies.
510 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:18:15am |
re: #506 MandyManners
Even one is too many, no matter the color of the skin.
I still agree with you, but not sure for how long. My cynicism is quickly pushing aside my Jeffersonian faith in the ability of the people to govern themselves.
511 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:18:30am |
re: #502 Stanley Sea
Well, they are at the Tea Party convention./
re: #504 American-African
You might be right, but this was a Tea Party event.
Informed electorate?
That's what I'm getting at - are they ignorant rubes or highly-educated bigots? "cause, if they're a buncha slobbering idiots, they're not likely to hear the whistle, whereas if they're educated enough to hear it, wouldn't they presumably not be there in the room, or be so few in number as to not be worth whistling at?
513 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:19:18am |
re: #478 Guanxi88
Hey, man, you don't talk to the Colonel. You listen to him. The man's enlarged my mind. He's a poet-warrior in the classic sense. I mean, sometimes he'll, uh, well, you'll say "Hello" to him, right? And he'll just walk right by you, and he won't even notice you. And suddenly he'll grab you, and he'll throw you in a corner, and he'll say "Do you know that 'if' is the middle word in life? 'If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs and blaming it on you, if you can trust yourself when all men doubt you'..." – I mean, I'm no, I can't – I'm a little man, I'm a little man, he's, he's a great man. I should have been a pair of ragged claws scuttling across floors of silent seas – I mean...
516 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:20:02am |
re: #32 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
My nic used to be "Chubby Vegan". But gave up on veganism out of sheer laziness. Changed my nic to FBV a couple of years ago to be more honest.
Fat Bastard (character from the Austin Powers movie)... I guess the emphasis would be on the V.
Every time (in person) someone finds out that I am a vegetarian, they look at me and say... really?
They expect that all vegetarians are shaped like Fiona Apple or Moby.
They ain't.
It's all that salad dressing...
519 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:21:05am |
Speaking of assholes:
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
[Link: thinkprogress.org...]
and not because he is a conservative.
I just hate these games from either side.
520 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:21:07am |
521 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:21:23am |
re: #516 SanFranciscoZionist
Nope. Beer.
If it weren't for beer I'd weigh a hundred and sixty pounds.
522 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:22:02am |
Apropos only of a story I'm writing, is there a global map out there that shows speculative coastlines after considerable rising waters from climate change?
523 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:22:15am |
re: #521 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Nope. Beer.
If it weren't for beer I'd weigh a hundred and sixty pounds.
somebody say beer??
524 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:22:19am |
re: #479 Guanxi88
There's something happening out here, man. You know something, man? I know something you that you don't know. That's right, Jack. The man is clear in his mind, but his soul is mad. Oh, yeah. He's dying, I think. He hates all this. He hates it! But the man's a...He reads poetry out loud, all right. And a voice...he likes you because you're still alive. He's got plans for you. No, I'm not gonna help you. You're gonna help him, man. You're gonna help him. I mean, what are they gonna sat when he's gone? 'Cause he dies when it dies, when it dies, he dies! What are they gonna say about him? He was a kind man? He was a wise man? He had plans? He had wisdom? Bullshit, man! And am I gonna be the one that's gonna set them straight? Look at me! Look at me! Wrong! [points to Willard] You!
525 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:22:21am |
526 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:22:21am |
re: #509 LudwigVanQuixote
re: #514 LudwigVanQuixote
And yet, you never miss a chance to spit in the faces of those contemptible and dangerous ones, do you?
Given the scope of the problem, the intransigence of your benighted foes, and the purity of your cause, why not just advocate - not their deportation, that's only for war criminals - but rather their execution?
527 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:22:25am |
re: #500 Varek Raith
I'm good. Hatches are batten down and the shovels are at the ready. Do your worst, old man winter!
:)
Incidentally made worse by having a lot more water vapor in the air from AGW to get hit by arctic air when the arctic circulation changes :)
529 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:22:49am |
re: #521 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Nope. Beer.
If it weren't for beer I'd weigh a hundred and sixty pounds.
530 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:23:18am |
re: #483 Guanxi88
Well, it might be that he was suggesting that a fundamentally uninformed electorate might not always be relied upon to vote in a manner consistent with the principles of a limited and republican form of government.
It might even be that he was suggesting the ability of the electorate to be able to read and comprehend what they read would be desirable.
Invoking the phrase "literacy test" has a rather narrow meaning to me.
531 | What, me worry? Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:23:41am |
re: #516 SanFranciscoZionist
It's all that salad dressing...
I vote for the carbs. I knew a lot of chubby veggies back in the day.
532 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:23:46am |
re: #526 Guanxi88
re: #514 LudwigVanQuixote
And yet, you never miss a chance to spit in the faces of those contemptible and dangerous ones, do you?
Given the scope of the problem, the intransigence of your benighted foes, and the purity of your cause, why not just advocate - not their deportation, that's only for war criminals - but rather their execution?
Because believe or don't I want to save people's lives. Even theirs. They can hate me for it later but their kids might just thank me in the long run.
533 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:24:26am |
re: #530 MandyManners
Invoking the phrase "literacy test" has a rather narrow meaning to me.
I'm not saying it's not there, it's just an odd one. He could have made his point without its inclusion, and yet including it only weakened the point. It's like test-firing into your foot, to check the sights.
534 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:24:28am |
535 | jaunte Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:24:30am |
re: #522 SanFranciscoZionist
Apropos only of a story I'm writing, is there a global map out there that shows speculative coastlines after considerable rising waters from climate change?
This site has a few:
[Link: www.newscientist.com...]
536 | simoom Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:25:01am |
re: #26 RadicalModerate
Wasn't Shelby involved in the "nuclear option" nonsense of the 2005 Senate
Yes. He was there when the GOP threatened change or remove the filibuster if the Senate wasn't allowed to offer it's "advice and consent" on judicial nominees through an "up or down vote".
That certainly hasn't stopped them from filibustering Obama's judicial nominees, including his very first; placing holds on nominees; and blocking floor action on nominees (delaying many judicial nominee votes for months). There are currently vacancies in 11% of federal appellate and district court judgeships, and because of the obstructionism the Senate is moving several times slower on Obama's nominations to fill those vacancies (with a large Democratic Party majority) than the Democratic Party controlled Senate did at the start of Bush's presidency.
537 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:25:08am |
(For Ludwig, just in case he missed it)
Global warming is real. But once again, we can see what happens when you have "scientist" who have gone far beyond science, and are more concerned with politics, prestige and personal gain they can make from bad science. As Ludwig so aptly put it on another thread...
It's time to clean house. The BBC once described Dr R.K Pachauri as “the world’s top climate scientist.” Dr R.K Pachauri is not a scientist, he is a former railroad engineer. He sits on the boards of many companies. He occupies more than a score of such posts, acting as director or adviser to many of the bodies which play a leading role in what has become known as the international climate industry.
Dr R.K Pachauri has been asked to step down by a number of pro-AGW scientists. As Ludwig says above "...and they always do are, booted out of the field forever."
It's about time that Dr R.K Pachauri is "booted" out of the field. No better than the crazy religious right, who's belief overrides the practicality of denouncing people like Pat Robertson, the AGW "religionist" need to understand that there are High Priest in the AGW science that, like Pat Robertson, are more interested in politics, prestige and personal gain and not good science.
It's time to clean house.
540 | wrenchwench Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:27:25am |
re: #522 SanFranciscoZionist
Apropos only of a story I'm writing, is there a global map out there that shows speculative coastlines after considerable rising waters from climate change?
Here's one in which you can change the sea level yourself. Hat tip to some fine lizard.
544 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:29:29am |
re: #538 LudwigVanQuixote
[snip]2. Shut up when your betters are talking.
Then I would advise you to do just that. From Fred Pearce, author of "The Last Generation: How nature will take her revenge for climate change."
545 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:29:46am |
re: #534 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
That is so odd...
That is NOT Weird Al.
Upon further research, I'm 95% sure you're right...
:)
546 | The Sanity Inspector Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:30:28am |
re: #510 cliffster
I still agree with you, but not sure for how long. My cynicism is quickly pushing aside my Jeffersonian faith in the ability of the people to govern themselves.
Every government is a parliament of whores. The trouble is, in a democracy, the whores are us.
-- P. J. O'Rourke
547 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:30:34am |
re: #533 Guanxi88
I'm not saying it's not there, it's just an odd one. He could have made his point without its inclusion, and yet including it only weakened the point. It's like test-firing into your foot, to check the sights.
Precisely. Tancredo's not an idiot. He should've known what the effect of that phrase.
550 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:31:14am |
551 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:31:16am |
re: #539 Guanxi88
Great. I wish you the best of luck. Nothing supports the image of a dispassionate, rational, and scientific approach to matters quite like the use of invective and insult.
How better to persuade the undecided, or to correct the misinformed, than to insult, belittle, ridicule, and otherwise demonstrate your own god-like superiority?
Good luck with that, and this from one who agrees there is a problem.
It is past that. I repeat. We are losing the fight for the truth because when we speak all dispassionately, we give the deniers a false and illegitimate equivalency, as if ther is a debate or a dispute to be had with the science. This is just like evolution and the Disco Institute. There is no difference at all in the attitude, and for that matter, as has been recounted here and many other places, many times, they are frequently the same people anyway coming up with the same antiscience two step.
Not on my watch. Not anymore. No more.
I am not sorry.
They get the same respect as the disco boys. Hell, you know and I know, they are the disco boys.
This is LGF we are anti idiotarian. That is what we do. Don't be an idiot and you don't get hit.
552 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:31:18am |
553 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:32:14am |
re: #543 Guanxi88
Arrogance! Monstrous arrogance!
Yes it is monstrous arrogance for anyone not a scientist to assume equivalent knowledge of the science with a scientist, or to assume that their opinions replace data.
That is the arrogance and the insult.
554 | American-African Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:32:19am |
re: #510 cliffster
I still agree with you, but not sure for how long. My cynicism is quickly pushing aside my Jeffersonian faith in the ability of the people to govern themselves.
I feel like the boy in a story I was once told, who happened upon millions of beached starfish and was throwing them, one by one, back into the ocean. It seems like an impossibility to get to them all, like we can never educate all of the electorate into making informed decisions.
556 | Page 3 in the Binder of Women Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:33:06am |
Same characters, different day. I'll check back later.
560 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:34:32am |
Oh, dear. Someone pass me my smelling salts.
*swoon*
561 | What, me worry? Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:34:36am |
re: #504 American-African
You might be right, but this was a Tea Party event.
Informed electorate?
And it came out of Tancredo's mouth. The man's a damn racist. He said that Blacks are too stupid to vote. Yes, that's what he said.
The opening-night speaker at first ever National Tea Party Convention ripped into President Obama, Sen. John McCain and "the cult of multiculturalism," asserting that Obama was elected because "we do not have a civics, literacy test before people can vote in this country."
Multiculturalism? What's that code for? 99% of Blacks vote for Obama? Ugh I hate him. And the article just gets worse from there.
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
562 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:34:40am |
I bet the stalker sights love these fights and arguments.
563 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:35:03am |
re: #52 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Tony Snow used to sing this whole theme song on his radio show. Watching Sponge Bob with his kids was one of his life's joys. I loved Tony.
I'm sure I've told this story, but here goes: I once had to administer the California writing assessment to my seventh graders. They were English language learners, quite new at English, in some cases less than three months in the country, but that didn't matter.
I thought this was bad, until I heard from the guy who taught the emotionally disturbed class. His kids had to take it too, and one of them ate part of the test.
Anyway, the prompt was this: "You've moved with your family to an underwater city. On your first day there, you wake up and get out of bed to go exploring. Write about what happens to you. Where do you go? What do you do?"
A couple of my advanced students started writing right away. The rest of the team stared at me in silence.
I wasn't supposed to say a WORD to them except to read the prompt, so I read the prompt again.
One kid (Mandarin speaking, English nonproficient) raised his hand.
"City," he said. "Like Oakland, San Francisco?"
"Uh huh!" I said brightly.
"Water," he said. "Swish, swish?" He made wave gestures.
"Right!"
"City...UNDER the water?" And he made the world's most skeptical face.
I was stumped. I knew what they meant, but I was raised on 80s scifi movies. "Like...under a bubble?" I suggested, breaking the law recklessly. "Atlantis?" Everyone just looked at me.
Then another kid piped up. "Like SpongeBob!" he said.
Everyone looked to me for guidance.
"Like SpongeBob!" I said.
So, if anyone scoring the California seventh grade writing assessments for 2005 wants to know why all the kids in one class wrote about SpongeBob Squarepants, that's why.
565 | wrenchwench Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:35:23am |
567 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:35:35am |
re: #555 LudwigVanQuixote
and theres a flag on the play... looks like a personal foul...
569 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:35:56am |
BTW, I'm becoming an equal opportunity hater:
[Link: www.politico.com...]
Congress just gets on my last nerve....
571 | Gus Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:36:09am |
re: #561 marjoriemoon
Multiculturalism? What's that code for? 99% of Blacks vote for Obama? Ugh I hate him. And the article just gets worse from there.
[Link: abcnews.go.com...]
That about sums it up. "It came from Tom Tancredo's mouth." The man is a racist puke.
573 | What, me worry? Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:36:17am |
re: #562 Mad Al-Jaffee
I bet the stalker sights love these fights and arguments.
I'm not real upset about it. Kinda blows that whole sycophant theory anyway. Like they don't drool all over each other. When do they ever have a dissenting voice?
574 | YaYa Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:36:52am |
Is it possible for more than one opinion on this subject or has that been rejected for this subject alone?
575 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:37:56am |
re: #574 YaYa
Is it possible for more than one opinion on this subject or has that been rejected for this subject alone?
which subject?
576 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:38:07am |
re: #574 YaYa
Is it possible for more than one opinion on this subject or has that been rejected for this subject alone?
Sure, just be prepared to back it up with facts.
:)
577 | tradewind Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:38:14am |
re: #551 LudwigVanQuixote
Actually, you are looking pretty sorry .
Just saying.
578 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:38:19am |
re: #574 YaYa
Is it possible for more than one opinion on this subject or has that been rejected for this subject alone?
Betty or Veronica?
MaryAnn or Ginger?
Jane Hathaway or Granny?
579 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:39:13am |
re: #568 Guanxi88
Sorry, but the arrogance and the insults are from you.
"not on my watch" - Sorry, Jeremiah, but it isn't "your watch".
Yes it is. I actually study this stuff. There is a duty to get the truth out. And you are right, lie I said I am no Jeremiah.
Little fish fillet is not the point. His hurt feelings after spewing bile is not the point.
Neither are yours. Why, because billions die if most people don't get it.
I can not stop the morons from being morons. However, by pointing them out as such, I can help prevent those who do not get it yet, but also do not know honestly from being fooled. That matters more.
I really really don't care what you think about the hurt feelings of those who refuse to study.
580 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:39:20am |
Jeez! Some folks need to up their dosage, switch to decaf, or take up smoking.
581 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:39:23am |
re: #578 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Betty or Veronica?
MaryAnn or Ginger?
Jane Hathaway or Granny?
Jane Hathaway or Granny? Damn man next you are going to give me a choice between Mamma or Unis.
582 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:39:25am |
583 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:39:41am |
Time to go face the snowacolypse. Have a great rest of the day everyone!
584 | YaYa Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:39:53am |
Well I am new here better stay out of AGW debates.
585 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:40:04am |
re: #583 Mad Al-Jaffee
Time to go face the snowacolypse. Have a great rest of the day everyone!
Drive safe!
586 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:40:09am |
re: #581 Locker
Jane Hathaway or Granny? Damn man next you are going to give me a choice between Mamma or Unis.
Mamma or Eunice?
587 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:40:10am |
re: #125 Mad Al-Jaffee
God have mercy.
All I can say is that at least the Turks are charging them with murder. In Saudi they'd probably be congratulated.
588 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:40:22am |
5 Sources of Alternative Energy You May Not Have Heard Of
As fossil fuels increasingly fall out of favor, many are looking into alternative energy sources to help us power our lives with a smaller impact on the environment. You already know about solar power and wind energy, and hydro-electric power and nuclear power have been around for decades. But scientists are increasingly looking to the natural world for additional solutions.
Here are 5 alternative energy sources that you may hearing more of soon:
589 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:40:23am |
re: #577 tradewind
Actually, you are looking pretty sorry .
Just saying.
OK fine... I look sorry. That's nice. Just remember that here at LGF, we do not cater to anti-science fools. That is what we did with the ID fools and it is the same now.
591 | Gus Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:40:38am |
re: #583 Mad Al-Jaffee
Time to go face the snowacolypse. Have a great rest of the day everyone!
And remember. If you get stuck in the snow, just floor it!
//
592 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:40:46am |
re: #579 LudwigVanQuixote
So let these billions who can be rescued by your heroic intervention die if they're not worthy to discuss the matter.
Enough with the drama - is every damned thing that damned important?
593 | Charles Johnson Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:40:52am |
re: #446 Walter L. Newton
No, I have a different idea. I've noticed during the last week, with all these revelations of bullshit going on with the CRU and the IPCC, revelations by Fred Pearce, far from a AGW denier, that the normal players on LGF who would usually be screaming and trying to deflect the topic, they have become very quiet. Interesting, makes me wonder.
I haven't.
And I'm noticing that a lot of people are swallowing this propaganda campaign whole, including you.
594 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:40:53am |
re: #573 marjoriemoon
I'm not real upset about it. Kinda blows that whole sycophant theory anyway. Like they don't drool all over each other. When do they ever have a dissenting voice?
I know who to go to now when I'm in desperate need of a silver lining. Hey mm, I just had my car repossessed, my wife is sleeping with her personal trainer, and my house burned down. and my dog died. what you got for me?
595 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:41:01am |
596 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:41:08am |
re: #591 Gus 802
And remember. If you get stuck in the snow, just floor it!
//
And yell. Don't forget to cuss out the snow!
/
597 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:41:15am |
re: #585 Varek Raith
Drive safe!
I'll be on the DC Metro for mot of my commuet - far more dangerous than driving!
598 | Gus Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:41:39am |
re: #596 Varek Raith
And yell. Don't forget to cuss out the snow!
/
Shaking your fist at the sky usually helps.
/
599 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:41:47am |
re: #584 YaYa
Well I am new here better stay out of AGW debates.
When did you stop referring to yourself in the third person?
600 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:42:02am |
re: #597 Mad Al-Jaffee
I'll be on the DC Metro for mot of my commuet - far more dangerous than driving!
Into Va? Heh, your probably not far from me. (Prince William county)
601 | What, me worry? Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:42:11am |
re: #571 Gus 802
That about sums it up. "It came from Tom Tancredo's mouth." The man is a racist puke.
Yea he is :( He hates McCain because McCain is pretty centrist as far as immigration goes.
And we know what Tancredo says about MY lovely city!
Btw, the Saints are staying in the building I work in (which is connected to a Hotel). I'm gonna go see if I can spot one of em. I figure they're the big tall, meaty fellas ya?
bbiab
602 | Charles Johnson Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:42:15am |
If the squabbling doesn't stop immediately, I'm going to start handing out time-outs.
603 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:42:34am |
re: #588 Locker
I likes the sound of the helioculture. The sewage powered buses, though, the Norwegians can keep.
604 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:42:49am |
re: #593 Charles
And I'm noticing that a lot of people are swallowing this propaganda campaign whole, including you.
Fred Pearce is a AGW denier? You mean there have been no problems over at the IPCC and the CRU? You mean all this stuff in the Guardian is a propaganda campaign? What's Fred Pearce's link to the propaganda campaign?
605 | wee fury Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:42:53am |
re: #591 Gus 802
And remember. If you get stuck in the snow, just floor it!
//
Doesn't work. Car just goes deeper, ice forms, and you are stuck until spring.
606 | Mad Al-Jaffee Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:42:54am |
re: #600 Varek Raith
Into Va? Heh, your probably not far from me. (Prince William county)
No, MD. But, no, not too far.
I'm really going now. time to shut down my computer.
Adios!
607 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:43:18am |
re: #596 Varek Raith
And yell. Don't forget to cuss out the snow!
/
I wish I had snow to cuss out.
sigh.
Maybe we will get our one inch for the year next week...
608 | YaYa Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:43:20am |
#599
After being called out for that.
Some things can be done for fun.
609 | SanFranciscoZionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:43:28am |
re: #232 Obdicut
Hey, random question for anyone that feels like answering:
How many people were at your wedding?
About sixty.
610 | Charles Johnson Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:43:52am |
re: #584 YaYa
Well I am new here better stay out of AGW debates.
Have you ever had an account at LGF with another name?
Why are you using a proxy IP?
612 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:44:25am |
re: #608 YaYa
#599
After being called out for that.
Some things can be done for fun.
might I suggest the "reply" button instead of manually typing in the comment #? That's fun too
613 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:44:37am |
614 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:45:03am |
615 | What, me worry? Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:45:11am |
re: #594 cliffster
I know who to go to now when I'm in desperate need of a silver lining. Hey mm, I just had my car repossessed, my wife is sleeping with her personal trainer, and my house burned down. and my dog died. what you got for me?
LOL You know I'm usually pretty cynical, but I guess I have my weird moments. It's just loyalty really... I like it HERE and I really hate it THERE.
Alcohol doesn't really work, but it takes the edge off, btw.
616 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:45:14am |
re: #603 Guanxi88
I likes the sound of the helioculture. The sewage powered buses, though, the Norwegians can keep.
Ahaha yea I kept imaging the following regarding the buses:
1. Shit Station Attendant as an up and coming Norwegian career path.
2. Insane rise in government procurement of car deodorizing pine tree dangles.
3. Crazed crowds fleeing the site of any future bus accidents if the fuel tank happened to rupture.
617 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:45:22am |
re: #613 brookly red
que the scary organ music...
We have a 'scary organ music' button?!?!
///if not, can we have one, Charles???
:)
619 | webevintage Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:46:28am |
re: #617 Varek Raith
We have a 'scary organ music' button?!?!
///if not, can we have one, Charles???
:)
dundun DUUUUNNNN
620 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:46:34am |
re: #571 Gus 802
That about sums it up. "It came from Tom Tancredo's mouth." The man is a racist puke.
Absolutely. Raw Story has some background on 'literacy tests' and how they were used to disenfranchise black voters in the past (and in some cases Latinos).
Tancredo knew exactly what he was saying and that his audience would know it too.
622 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:46:45am |
623 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:46:54am |
re: #592 Guanxi88
So let these billions who can be rescued by your heroic intervention die if they're not worthy to discuss the matter.
Enough with the drama - is every damned thing that damned important?
What could possibly be more important than billions of deaths and the collapse of civilization as we know it? Just curious...
Perhaps Avatar?
Perhaps the change in breast size of a particular starlet?
What exactly?
The other thing wrong with that is amongst those billions will likely be your kids.
624 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:48:05am |
re: #622 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
This one's better, if a bit longer. Worth the watching, though - Vincent Price as the Abmoniable Dr. Phibes:
625 | Charles Johnson Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:48:18am |
re: #604 Walter L. Newton
Fred Pearce is a AGW denier? You mean there have been no problems over at the IPCC and the CRU? You mean all this stuff in the Guardian is a propaganda campaign? What's Fred Pearce's link to the propaganda campaign?
Every single one of these trumped up scandals has been exaggerated way beyond its significance by the AGW denial industry. If you can show one organization created by human beings that does NOT have problems, I'll eat my words. But using any one of these silly incidents to prove a bigger problem with the theory of global warming is ridiculous, and it should be below you if you care about the truth.
626 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:48:31am |
re: #620 iceweasel
Absolutely. Raw Story has some background on 'literacy tests' and how they were used to disenfranchise black voters in the past (and in some cases Latinos).
Tancredo knew exactly what he was saying and that his audience would know it too.
Tancredo is from my area. He gets a lot of air play around here. It's no mystery what he thinks and says. He is way beyond someone who is simply concerned with immigration, he is really a tried and true racist.
627 | tradewind Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:48:45am |
re: #617 Varek Raith
What the hell.... let's ask for a theremin!
629 | Gus Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:48:50am |
re: #620 iceweasel
Absolutely. Raw Story has some background on 'literacy tests' and how they were used to disenfranchise black voters in the past (and in some cases Latinos).
Tancredo knew exactly what he was saying and that his audience would know it too.
Yes. It's from the Jim Crow era. What a surprise to find this was said in the opening night for the Tea Party Convention.
630 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:48:52am |
re: #592 Guanxi88
Enough with the drama - is every damned thing that damned important?
Yes, AGW IS that important.
Some people here are in denial about that, and others simply know that LVQ is passionate about it as well as highly informed, and they choose to bait him. Happens all the time.
But don't kid yourself that this particular problem isn't worth the amount of passion he has for it. Is it.
631 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:49:11am |
re: #232 Obdicut
Hey, random question for anyone that feels like answering:
How many people were at your wedding?
I wouldn't worry about the specific number. Just go with a number that feels right and that you, your wife, and/or whoever is going to pay for it is willing to go with. You (or your finace) want a big wedding? Awesome! Small destination wedding? Awesome! It's all good - just depends on what you want to do (and are willing to spend). :)
632 | MandyManners Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:49:11am |
633 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:49:34am |
re: #623 LudwigVanQuixote
Well, I certainly do appreciate you stopping by to remind us of how we're all doomed to a watery grave unless and until every single last person in the world signs on and agrees to.....
.. now what exactly is it that you suggest will save these billions of lives?
634 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:49:51am |
re: #628 Locker
Nice to see you, ya foul mouth lib.
Hey there, baby! Just clocking in for my lib shift. How's it going?
635 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:50:48am |
re: #629 Gus 802
Yes. It's from the Jim Crow era. What a surprise to find this was said in the opening night for the Tea Party Convention.
We're beyond dogwhistles and moving into bugles playing Dixie.
637 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:50:55am |
re: #623 LudwigVanQuixote
What could possibly be more important than billions of deaths and the collapse of civilization as we know it? Just curious...
Perhaps Avatar?
Perhaps the change in breast size of a particular starlet?
What exactly?
The other thing wrong with that is amongst those billions will likely be your kids.
If the Earth is to be taken out by the Universe, I want it to be by gamma ray burst.
///;)
638 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:51:10am |
re: #610 Charles
Have you ever had an account at LGF with another name?
Why are you using a proxy IP?
Seriously and respectfully, Charles, is there anything wrong with giving the anti-science denier types on AGW, the exact same treatment we gave them for anti evolution?
Honestly and seriously, it really is the same thing - except the AGW thing kills people in the long run.
I am not trying to put yu in a bad spot and I am not trying to be a jerk to you I promise.
I am asking, when do we reach the same point with the AGW deniers that we did with the Evolution deniers?
639 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:51:31am |
re: #634 iceweasel
Hey there, baby! Just clocking in for my lib shift. How's it going?
We spent the entire early morning lib shift talking about various spots for good pastrami with a side conversation about Corned Bison. It's been fabulous but if I don't get some lunch soon it's not going to be pretty. How's things on your side of the pond?
641 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:52:01am |
re: #637 Varek Raith
I'd like us to explore the universe, and hopefully build artificial intelligence as we do.
I want us to triumph over the selfish replicators. Because as far as we know, we're the only thing in the cosmos that even has a chance.
I want humanity to survive.
643 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:52:32am |
re: #637 Varek Raith
If the Earth is to be taken out by the Universe, I want it to be by gamma ray burst.
///;)
Can't we die in a shower of boob shaped asteroids or something? At least it would be interesting and we could serve punch and pie.
644 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:54:04am |
re: #639 Locker
We spent the entire early morning lib shift talking about various spots for good pastrami with a side conversation about Corned Bison. It's been fabulous but if I don't get some lunch soon it's not going to be pretty. How's things on your side of the pond?
I'm still on the US side of the pond, alas, waiting on a visa. Actually still assembling all the paperwork for it. Jimmah will be arriving here soon and we have a trip to Katz's planned. Been telling him he needs to have pastrami and he loves matzo soup.
I didn't even know there was such a thing as corned bison!
646 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:54:21am |
Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost everything
Spray-on liquid glass is transparent, non-toxic, and can protect virtually any surface against almost any damage from hazards such as water, UV radiation, dirt, heat, and bacterial infections. The coating is also flexible and breathable, which makes it suitable for use on an enormous array of products.
This could be my million dollar idea. Locker-brand Spray On Condoms only 29.95 for a 6 oz can.
647 | Gus Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:54:42am |
re: #635 iceweasel
We're beyond dogwhistles and moving into bugles playing Dixie.
Yeah, then they'll complain about being stereotyped. The Tea Partiers that is. This convention should provide material for the months to come. I wonder if birther Joseph Farah of World Nut Drooly who is scheduled to speak will bring up the nirth certificate.
649 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:54:52am |
re: #633 Guanxi88
Well, I certainly do appreciate you stopping by to remind us of how we're all doomed to a watery grave unless and until every single last person in the world signs on and agrees to...
.. now what exactly is it that you suggest will save these billions of lives?
I will treat that as a serious question and respond seriously.
Truthfully, as I have written many times here...
We need to:
1. Switch over to primary nuclear energy, supplemented by solar and wind.
2. Deploy higher energy density batteries - which have been developed and switch to electric vehicles.
3. Update the power grid.
4. Use carrot and stick with INdia and China to get more green. We help them develop green industry - which by replacing oil and coal would be worth billions each year anyway and create millions of jobs world wide, while stopping many of the ills of the ME and Africa, or w tarrif the hell out of them and refuse to buy their sweat shop crap.
5. Recycle more.
650 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:55:47am |
re: #646 Locker
Only a six ounce can? I'll need more than that.
651 | sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:55:53am |
re: #637 Varek Raith
If the Earth is to be taken out by the Universe, I want it to be by gamma ray burst.
///;)
hmmm,,,, individually we could all be downdinged to death!
/
652 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:56:19am |
re: #649 LudwigVanQuixote
Every single thing you posted there I agree with in every fiber of my being.
653 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:56:19am |
re: #625 Charles
Every single one of these trumped up scandals has been exaggerated way beyond its significance by the AGW denial industry. If you can show one organization created by human beings that does NOT have problems, I'll eat my words. But using any one of these silly incidents to prove a bigger problem with the theory of global warming is ridiculous, and it should be below you if you care about the truth.
I take the same stance on these organizations as this blog has taken on multiple subjects like the dangerous religious right, the stupid far right conservatives, Sarah Palin and so on.
The same way you have issues and opinions on the corruption in these people and organizations mentioned above, I have the same concern in the IPCC and the CRU.
I am not talking about the truth of AGW anymore than you are denying the existence of G-d just because you have found corruption and craziness in the religious right.
As I said above (numerous times)...
"This is the ONLY issue I have with the people and organizations mentioned in these articles. I have NO issue with the body of respectable scientist world wide who find no need to deceive and obstruct."
654 | Charles Johnson Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:56:26am |
Hey, 'YaYa' -- care to answer my questions?
655 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:56:32am |
re: #645 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
You used some very improper language and hurled some vile things. I'd be surprised if Charles (or anyone else for that matter) supports that.
I'm sure you don't care what I think. But, I have all this white space here that Charles allows me to write in...
I do care what you think. FBV. I like you and I think you are smart.
As to calling deniers morons, well we used to call the Evolution deniers much much worse.
656 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:57:24am |
re: #655 LudwigVanQuixote
Careful on the use of the word "we".
657 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:57:49am |
re: #644 iceweasel
Mmm Katz. Here is the low down on the Corned Bison straight from Obdicut:
[Link: littlegreenfootballs.com...]
658 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:58:28am |
re: #648 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
There's gonna be pie?
More people will come if we say there will be punch and pie!
659 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:58:46am |
re: #656 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
Careful on the use of the word "we".
Fair enough... I find that may of my repeat nemesis posters here used to use very similar language with the anti-evolution people that I do with them for exactly the same types of falsehoods.
660 | sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:59:17am |
re: #644 iceweasel
I'm still on the US side of the pond, alas, waiting on a visa. Actually still assembling all the paperwork for it. Jimmah will be arriving here soon and we have a trip to Katz's planned. Been telling him he needs to have pastrami and he loves matzo soup.
I didn't even know there was such a thing as corned bison!
Can't get a decent pastrami nor corned beef sammich here in Atlanta
There were at least a dozen places I used to go to when I lived in/ around Boston
There was a bagel joint in Chelsea Mass named KATZ's. AMAZING!
661 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:59:31am |
re: #649 LudwigVanQuixote
I will treat that as a serious question and respond seriously.
Truthfully, as I have written many times here...
We need to:
1. Switch over to primary nuclear energy, supplemented by solar and wind.
2. Deploy higher energy density batteries - which have been developed and switch to electric vehicles.
3. Update the power grid.
4. Use carrot and stick with INdia and China to get more green. We help them develop green industry - which by replacing oil and coal would be worth billions each year anyway and create millions of jobs world wide, while stopping many of the ills of the ME and Africa, or w tarrif the hell out of them and refuse to buy their sweat shop crap.
5. Recycle more.
See, and those are all perfectly reasonable, perfectly sound ways to go. You can push these things without even having to get the folk who don't know the science of AGW to agree to that it's happening. Hell, you wouldn;t even need to drag the science into the thing at all:
1) "Look, do you wanna keep sending your money to a buncha folk who want us dead (oil)?
2) "Lookit, if we get them coastal yuppie types to all switch over and use these cars. that's more fuel for NASCAR"
3) "I don't know about you, but I'd sure like it if the lights stayed on when there was a storm, or when a powerline fell down."
4) "But American! and make those guys play by our rules."
5) "Who! Don't put that in there. Every beer can's worth about a nickel."
And not a word about billions dying, not a word about listening to your betters.
662 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 9:59:41am |
re: #658 Locker
More people will come if we say there will be punch and pie!
And when this large group finds out that they were mislead....?
;)
663 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:00:01am |
re: #650 Obdicut
Only a six ounce can? I'll need more than that.
Only if you want to quadruple wrap your unit. Besides.. carrying a 55 gallon drum of spray-on-condom might be kind of obvious to your date.
664 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:00:11am |
re: #657 Locker
I'd note that the spice mix I refer to is juniper berries, pepper, and paprika. You can vary at will, just make sure there's some pickling agent there-- that's what the juniper does in mine.
665 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:00:38am |
666 | MrSilverDragon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:01:04am |
Alas, the snowpocalypse has hit Maryland! Traffic has slowed to just above a halt, and all the milk, bread, and eggs are gone from the shelves of the stores!... which leads me to my question, why does everyone feel the need to make French Toast when snow is coming?
(It's not even sticking yet, sheesh.)
667 | tradewind Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:01:06am |
re: #630 iceweasel
You don't increase a person's appreciation for your cooking by shoving it down their throats. The normal reaction is to spit it back in your face.
LVQ wastes a lof of food that way, IMO.
668 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:01:18am |
re: #663 Locker
Only if you want to quadruple wrap your unit. Besides.. carrying a 55 gallon drum of spray-on-condom might be kind of obvious to your date.
The bigger the drum the better your chances would be of using it would be my guess.
669 | Sloppy Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:01:21am |
How many were at my wedding? Be specific. Which one? At the divorces, not so many: plaintiff, defendant, judge, her lawyer, steno.
670 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:02:08am |
re: #664 Obdicut
I'd note that the spice mix I refer to....
He who controls the spice controls the universe!
671 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:02:12am |
re: #661 Guanxi88
See, and those are all perfectly reasonable, perfectly sound ways to go. You can push these things without even having to get the folk who don't know the science of AGW to agree to that it's happening. Hell, you wouldn;t even need to drag the science into the thing at all:
1) "Look, do you wanna keep sending your money to a buncha folk who want us dead (oil)?
2) "Lookit, if we get them coastal yuppie types to all switch over and use these cars. that's more fuel for NASCAR"
3) "I don't know about you, but I'd sure like it if the lights stayed on when there was a storm, or when a powerline fell down."
4) "But American! and make those guys play by our rules."
5) "Who! Don't put that in there. Every beer can's worth about a nickel."
And not a word about billions dying, not a word about listening to your betters.
Wait, you have been here a very good long time. You have to know I have posted those things with arguments exactly like the ones you just made many many times here in the past. You have to remember me doing that more than once.
Did it stop the deniers from spewing anti-science?
Did it stop the deniers from spreading lies and propaganda?
Did it stop any of the petty, insulting or arrogant games they play?
Did it at all?
672 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:02:18am |
re: #660 sattv4u2
Can't get a decent pastrami nor corned beef sammich here in Atlanta
There were at least a dozen places I used to go to when I lived in/ around BostonThere was a bagel joint in Chelsea Mass named KATZ's. AMAZING!
Maybe not but you can get Angry Mussels at JCT Kitchen & Bar which I am dying to try.
673 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:03:05am |
re: #415 RogueOne
If Ryannon is still here I'm not getting a link to the video you posted.
Here's the YouTube link, but you'll need to connect with a proxy from the U.S. For copyright reasons, it won't play outside of Europe. The title of the documentary is "Home", by Yann Arthus Bertrand.
Here's a little preview on the National Geographic site:
674 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:03:13am |
re: #662 Varek Raith
And when this large group finds out that they were mislead...?
;)
About that time they will be squished in a hail of boob shaped asteroids but we all know the end of humanity is more fun when everyone shows up.
675 | Charles Johnson Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:03:14am |
Yaya seems to have lost the gift of speech.
676 | Buck Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:03:15am |
I agree that suggesting literacy tests is tone deaf at best and racist at worst.
How about government issued Picture ID?
/Trying to change the subject
677 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:03:53am |
re: #671 LudwigVanQuixote
So why argue the science on it with them? Just propose these solutions, which, by the way, would all be sound and appropriate ways of moving forward even IF AGW weren't real.
You're never gonna get them to even consider the solutions, if that requires they understand the science.
678 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:04:02am |
re: #660 sattv4u2
Can't get a decent pastrami nor corned beef sammich here in Atlanta
There were at least a dozen places I used to go to when I lived in/ around BostonThere was a bagel joint in Chelsea Mass named KATZ's. AMAZING!
We're definitely going to Katz's I'm sure. Jimmah's never had pastrami, I don't think. It's cute how I had to explain to him why it's a terrible thing when Annie Hall orders it on white bread with mayo. :)
He's also deeply afraid of potatoes because of the terrible things the Brits call 'potato waffles', but he just hasn't been to Yonah Schimmel's yet for knishes. I'm also pretty sure he's never had latkes.
679 | sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:04:50am |
re: #672 Locker
Maybe not but you can get Angry Mussels at JCT Kitchen & Bar which I am dying to try.
Sorry,, but after growing up and living in Boston and vacationing on both the New Hampshire and Maine coastlines most of my life Seafood Restaurants 6 hours from the nearest ocean don't appeal to me!
680 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:04:55am |
re: #678 iceweasel
We're definitely going to Katz's I'm sure. Jimmah's never had pastrami, I don't think. It's cute how I had to explain to him why it's a terrible thing when Annie Hall orders it on white bread with mayo. :)
He's also deeply afraid of potatoes because of the terrible things the Brits call 'potato waffles', but he just hasn't been to Yonah Schimmel's yet for knishes. I'm also pretty sure he's never had latkes.
Lol, potato waffles...I'd be afraid of potatos, as well...
:D
681 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:04:55am |
re: #676 Buck
I agree that suggesting literacy tests is tone deaf at best and racist at worst.
How about government issued Picture ID?
/Trying to change the subject
Also racist, so I'm told.
683 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:05:10am |
re: #588 Locker
Last one..
• Human movement: [snip] As people walked to the bus, or jogged in the park, their pressure on these tiles could produce power.
That's energy theft --about as ethical as requiring someone to pull a rickshaw without any compensation.
684 | sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:05:15am |
685 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:05:24am |
re: #660 sattv4u2
Can't get a decent pastrami nor corned beef sammich here in Atlanta
There were at least a dozen places I used to go to when I lived in/ around BostonThere was a bagel joint in Chelsea Mass named KATZ's. AMAZING!
here is a link to the NY Cornedbeef Society of Atlanta... good luck.
[Link: www.pba.org...]
687 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:06:00am |
re: #660 sattv4u2
Can't get a decent pastrami nor corned beef sammich here in Atlanta
There were at least a dozen places I used to go to when I lived in/ around BostonThere was a bagel joint in Chelsea Mass named KATZ's. AMAZING!
There's a Katz's in Austin. Open 24 hours. Katz's Never Kloses! mega yum
688 | Almost Killed by Space Hookers Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:06:26am |
re: #677 Guanxi88
So why argue the science on it with them? Just propose these solutions, which, by the way, would all be sound and appropriate ways of moving forward even IF AGW weren't real.
You're never gonna get them to even consider the solutions, if that requires they understand the science.
I always bring the science with them because that is what differentiates the real truth from blowhard nonsense. I also bring it, because it is not for their sakes. They have proven again and again tehy will not look and they will not read and they will not think about it honestly. I do it so that a thrid party sees the moron called a moron by the scientist and proven a moron by the data and I bring out their is no equivalence in the views.
689 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:06:41am |
re: #687 cliffster
There's a Katz's in Austin. Open 24 hours. Katz's Never Kloses! mega yum
Father and son suing each other, son running for mayor. Great family story.
690 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:07:23am |
re: #436 RogueOne
County Isn't Liable for Alleged Police Beating
[Link: www.courthousenews.com...]
Lets see, the county hired them, trained them, gave them guns and badges, and put them on the street but they aren't responsible at all for their behavior. That is some pretty lousy logic.
No, that's San Bernadino County.
691 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:07:59am |
re: #677 Guanxi88
That's the tact I take. I know that some people aren't going to want to hear about AGW or that the planet is warming, but they do want cleaner air and don't want to depend on the Middle East or Venezuela for our power (or Canada) and all the baggage that comes from getting oil from unstable regimes. Going nuclear would result in a clean energy source with the ability to produce prodigious amounts of power on a small footprint compared to wind or solar (one of the major detriments to widespread acceptance). Yet, we've got plenty of NIMBY to go around to prevent any action at all.
Something has got to give, and I think the alarmist take and more shrill tone is counterproductive. It just leads people to tune them out as Cassandras (or worse - write 'em off altogether).
692 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:08:38am |
re: #688 LudwigVanQuixote
I always bring the science with them because that is what differentiates the real truth from blowhard nonsense. I also bring it, because it is not for their sakes. They have proven again and again tehy will not look and they will not read and they will not think about it honestly. I do it so that a thrid party sees the moron called a moron by the scientist and proven a moron by the data and I bring out their is no equivalence in the views.
So you kick the dog to warn the cat?
You'd be better served by pointing out that the solutions and suggestions proposed would make money, serve the national interest, expand the scope of individual liberty, and would, as a bonus, and as a side-effect not even contemplated or intended, also be green and make the earth a bit cleaner than it might otherwise be.
693 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:09:21am |
694 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:09:55am |
re: #691 lawhawk
Nobody doesn't want less garbage, less smog, less dependence on other countries.
695 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:10:12am |
re: #685 brookly red
here is a link to the NY Cornedbeef Society of Atlanta... good luck.
[Link: www.pba.org...]
I bet they have the best meetings ever.
696 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:10:20am |
re: #680 Varek Raith
Lol, potato waffles...I'd be afraid of potatos, as well...
:D
They look horrible. Frozen crap that is probably made from reconstituted potato flakes or something. Think frozen microwaveable tater tots ---without even the benefit of a crispy coating.
697 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:10:36am |
re: #694 cliffster
Then why aren't we already using clean energy and recycling?
Seriously, I'm asking. If everyone wants that, and everyone agrees it's a good thing, as your'e asserting, why aren't we there?
698 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:10:37am |
re: #693 Locker
Wait for my brother Baron!
Easily, one of the finest over-the-top sci-fi spectacle films of all time.
Where's my doctor!
699 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:10:49am |
re: #696 iceweasel
They look horrible. Frozen crap that is probably made from reconstituted potato flakes or something. Think frozen microwaveable tater tots ---without even the benefit of a crispy coating.
That's exactly what they are!
:)
700 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:11:35am |
701 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:11:46am |
re: #686 Obdicut
You're joking, right?
No. It's like arranging for anyone's walk to the park and back home to be uphill both ways.
702 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:11:55am |
re: #692 Guanxi88
So you kick the dog to warn the cat?
You'd be better served by pointing out that the solutions and suggestions proposed would make money, serve the national interest, expand the scope of individual liberty, and would, as a bonus, and as a side-effect not even contemplated or intended, also be green and make the earth a bit cleaner than it might otherwise be.
No, he wouldn't. Look how many people here want to deny the science and pretend there isn't a problem with AGW at all. That's done precisely to forestall having to have those discussions about policy and what to do. That's why we never even get to that point.
703 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:11:55am |
re: #694 cliffster
Yet some governments around the world are more than willing to sacrifice clean air or water for economic advantage - China comes to mind. And in this country, some are standing in the way of those principles by shouting NIMBY every time someone proposes a new generation nuclear power plant or a new transmission line (even if the new line is running along an existing right of way).
704 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:12:12am |
re: #686 Obdicut
You're joking, right?
Maybe we could just hook up the "energy generating device" to all of the treadmills, elipticals and stationary bikes at California Fitness and give the patrons a membership discount. Perhaps that would appeal to his sense of fair reward.
Hey.. it could happen!
705 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:12:26am |
re: #700 brookly red
maybe Sattv will tell us...
..why? He could get any channel he wants...
/hintedy hint, hint. :)
706 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:12:39am |
re: #697 Obdicut
Well, I'd note that in the few short years I've been around, we've made remarkable progress in that direction. Compare where we were when the Blessed Nixon created the EPA to where we are today, and you can't deny the amazing progress.
707 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:13:28am |
re: #701 abolitionist
Okay. When you make a path in a park, you have your choice of materials, some of which are easier to walk on than others. You could make the path out of something easier to walk on, or harder. It's not 'energy theft' to make it out of something that takes more energy if there's other reasons for it-- durability, cheapness, less environmental impact, whatever-- so why on earth would it be 'energy theft' to recycle some of the energy used in walking instead of letting it dissipate?
708 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:13:29am |
re: #705 Varek Raith
..why? He could get any channel he wants...
/hintedy hint, hint. :)
I don't eat meat or watch TV...
I do this in service to mankind.
709 | sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:13:36am |
710 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:13:38am |
re: #704 Locker
Maybe we could just hook up the "energy generating device" to all of the treadmills, elipticals and stationary bikes at California Fitness and give the patrons a membership discount. Perhaps that would appeal to his sense of fair reward.
Hey.. it could happen!
That would be ethical.
711 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:14:00am |
re: #698 Guanxi88
Easily, one of the finest over-the-top sci-fi spectacle films of all time.
Where's my doctor!
Yea but those heart plugs creeped me out out as a kid... along with Baron Harkonan's fondness for young, waifey blond boys. Shuddddddddder.
712 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:14:15am |
re: #697 Obdicut
Then why aren't we already using clean energy and recycling?
Seriously, I'm asking. If everyone wants that, and everyone agrees it's a good thing, as your'e asserting, why aren't we there?
Well, I think we are. They're even recycling in Tulsa, OK. If that doesn't prove a greener country, I don't know what does.
713 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:14:22am |
re: #702 iceweasel
No, he wouldn't. Look how many people here want to deny the science and pretend there isn't a problem with AGW at all. That's done precisely to forestall having to have those discussions about policy and what to do. That's why we never even get to that point.
"So who's talking about GW? I leave that for the others to debate. Me? I;m talking dollars and cents and national interest." You can sell a flat coil spring, or you can sell a Slinky. It's the same thing.
714 | Charles Johnson Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:14:53am |
This is your last chance to answer my questions, "YaYa."
I think you're a sock puppet, and unless you give me a good reason to reconsider that, you're out of here.
715 | Walter L. Newton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:15:09am |
re: #697 Obdicut
Then why aren't we already using clean energy and recycling?
Seriously, I'm asking. If everyone wants that, and everyone agrees it's a good thing, as your'e asserting, why aren't we there?
I worked for the NAtional Renewable Energy Lab for 13 years, a DOE research facility. The simple answer to your question is the science has still not caught up with the practicalities of putting this kind of science and technologies into practice.
The only way it could work now is if the government simply threw many more tons of money at it and it stays a lost leader for years. Throw enough money at anything and the chances are good it will work. But with in the realities of the marketplace, it's not that easy.
I saw wonderful science when I worked there (left 2005), but any scientist there will tell you, it's still far from being viable on a day to day basis.
And that's science.
716 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:15:52am |
re: #712 cliffster
Well, I think we are. They're even recycling in Tulsa, OK. If that doesn't prove a greener country, I don't know what does.
Also, there's a difference between "wanting" something and "being able to do it".
717 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:15:56am |
re: #707 Obdicut
That's the theory behind some schemes to harness car traffic and the wind generated by passing cars.
Other schemes include using various materials to leach particulates out of the air around highways to lead to cleaner air.
718 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:16:04am |
re: #711 Locker
Yea but those heart plugs creeped me out out as a kid... along with Baron Harkonan's fondness for young, waifey blond boys. Shuddder.
I remember looking at Thufir Hawat's eyebrows with a mixture of amusement and fear. Then, when I turned 30, I noticed that I was starting to grow them myself. The amusement went down.
(I really wish someone had written a book to warn young men about that. They warned us about everything else.)
719 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:16:21am |
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Joe Arpaio's Sheriff's Office Faces Possible Sanctions For Destroying Racial Profiling Records
PHOENIX — A federal judge will decide whether to impose sanctions against the Maricopa County Sheriff's Office for its acknowledged destruction of police records in a lawsuit that accuses deputies of racially profiling countless Hispanics in immigration sweeps.U.S. District Judge Murray Snow heard arguments Thursday over whether the law enforcement agency should be punished for throwing away and shredding officers' records of traffic stops and for not handing over all its e-mails about the sweeps.
720 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:16:22am |
re: #709 sattv4u2
Hmmm,,,maybe i'll check it out!
potato salad... garlic dill pickles... brown mustard...
721 | filetandrelease Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:16:55am |
re: #649 LudwigVanQuixote
Wow, now that is the way to move this ball forward. IMO. I agree with that post 100%.
For the record, I believe in AGW, it the seriousness and the consequences where I am a skeptic.
Regardless, your suggestions in the above mentioned post would solve so many of our current problems, it is something even I can understand and more to the point, agree with.
722 | sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:17:08am |
re: #720 brookly red
potato salad... garlic dill pickles... brown mustard...
AND most importabnt (besides the meat itself, of course) is a GREAT Rye bread
723 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:17:08am |
re: #712 cliffster
Green-er, sure. But we still are dependent on foreign oil to an enormous degree-- I do not think we've seriously improved in that. We still produce enormous amounts of waste, Bush rolled back a shitton of environmental protections. If everyone already cares, how come Bush was allowed to gut so many environmental regs?
I think that declaring everyone wants cleaner air and less dependence on foreign oil -- or at least not comparing it to "Well, they really want that, but they also want things that are contrary to that goal, and they want them a lot more-- is foolish. People have demonstrated, the market has demonstrated, that we don't really give a shit about the environment.
Hell, the tragedy of the commons proved the basis of it a long time ago.
725 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:17:39am |
re: #722 sattv4u2
AND most importabnt (besides the meat itself, of course) is a GREAT Rye bread
and a nice pale ale...
726 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:18:10am |
re: #720 brookly red
Dude.. you gotta stop.. it's still like an hour to lunch time...
727 | ryannon Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:18:15am |
728 | Sloppy Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:18:18am |
I wish more posters knew that the plural of "scientist" is "scientists."
BTW, the reuben was invented in Omaha and good ones are available all over town.
729 | sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:18:21am |
730 | Killgore Trout Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:18:59am |
Why ethnic nationalists are drawn to the Tea Parties.....
Tancredo: Tea Party Movement Can Learn From Anti-Immigrant Amnesty Fight
Former congressman Tom Tancredo is the only former federal officeholder working the rooms at the National Tea Party Convention, and he followed up a fiery speech last night with a short address today at a breakout session on immigration run by Numbers USA.
731 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:19:37am |
re: #707 Obdicut
Okay. When you make a path in a park, you have your choice of materials, some of which are easier to walk on than others. You could make the path out of something easier to walk on, or harder. It's not 'energy theft' to make it out of something that takes more energy if there's other reasons for it-- durability, cheapness, less environmental impact, whatever-- so why on earth would it be 'energy theft' to recycle some of the energy used in walking instead of letting it dissipate?
I've marked the fallacy. The proposed "free energy" method would actually increase the energy expenditure required for walking.
732 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:19:39am |
733 | sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:20:37am |
734 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:20:40am |
re: #731 abolitionist
As would using a different surface. Are you saying if someone uses a surface that's harder to walk on-- uses more energy to walk on-- rather than an easier-to-walk on surface when building a path, they are engaged in 'energy theft'?
735 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:20:43am |
re: #723 Obdicut
People have demonstrated, the market has demonstrated, that we don't really give a shit about the environment.
Well, they've demonstrated that they aren't willing to pay what it takes. And never will. People are quite myopic.
736 | Locker Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:21:17am |
re: #728 Sloppy
I wish more posters knew that the plural of "scientist" is "scientists."
BTW, the reuben was invented in Omaha and good ones are available all over town.
That's disputed and I'm going to have to go with the inventor who's name was actually Reuben. Then again I am biased towards NYC over Omaha.. unless we are talking about steak. :-)
[Link: en.wikipedia.org...]
One account holds that Reuben Kulakofsky (sometimes spelled Reubin, or the last name shortened to Kay), a grocer from Omaha, Nebraska, was the inventor, perhaps as part of a group effort by members of Kulakofsky's weekly poker game held in the Blackstone Hotel from around 1920 through 1935. The participants, who nicknamed themselves "the committee," included the hotel's owner, Charles Schimmel. The sandwich first gained local fame when Schimmel put it on the Blackstone's lunch menu.
Other accounts hold that its creator was Arnold Reuben, owner of the once famous but now no longer existing Reuben's Delicatessen in New York,[2] who, according to an interview with Craig Claiborne, invented the sandwich around 1914.[3] A version of the story is related by Bernard Sobel in his book Broadway Heartbeat: Memoirs of a Press Agent and claims that the sandwich was an extemporaneous creation for Marjorie Rambeau inaugurated when the famed Broadway actress visited the Delicatessen one night when the cupboards were particularly bare.[4]
737 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:22:41am |
re: #728 Sloppy
I wish more posters knew that the plural of "scientist" is "scientists."
BTW, the reuben was invented in Omaha and good ones are available all over town.
The only thing Omaha ever invented was boredom.//
738 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:22:55am |
739 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:22:59am |
re: #717 lawhawk
That's the theory behind some schemes to harness car traffic and the wind generated by passing cars.
Other schemes include using various materials to leach particulates out of the air around highways to lead to cleaner air.
here's a local article of an alternative energy source idea I always found intriguing..it kind of solves the NIMBY problem...unless you are of the aquatic persuasion...which I would suppose these turbines might disrupt marine life..but it is an interesting concept..
[Link: www.leadernewspapers.net...]
740 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:23:12am |
re: #735 cliffster
And one of the main reasons we have government is to deal with things like the tragedy of the commons. Capitalism does well with it, but only when things are owned. Anything held in common that can be exploited under capitalism will be.
I would be a complete asshole if I just littered by throwing the packaging of what I ate on the grass whenever I ate something, but we think little of littering Co2 molecules into the air as we drive along. It's a weird disconnect in our head.
741 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:23:14am |
re: #736 Locker
Considering that the deli really took root in NYC - and the Jewish deli being a particularly delicious subset, I'm going to go with the NYC roots for the Reuben.
That said, I would love to go up to Montreal for some of their smoked deli.
742 | American-African Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:23:19am |
re: #718 Guanxi88
I remember looking at Thufir Hawat's eyebrows with a mixture of amusement and fear. Then, when I turned 30, I noticed that I was starting to grow them myself. The amusement went down.
(I really wish someone had written a book to warn young men about that. They warned us about everything else.)
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion...
743 | RadicalModerate Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:24:14am |
re: #697 Obdicut
Then why aren't we already using clean energy and recycling?
Seriously, I'm asking. If everyone wants that, and everyone agrees it's a good thing, as your'e asserting, why aren't we there?
In my opinion, its a very simple answer, at least from a US business standpoint. It's cheaper (and more profitable in the short term) for businesses to hold the status-quo. A lot of the mess that we're in, especially in the energy and manufacturing sectors is the boardrooms for those companies not being able to look past how this quarter's profits look to the stockholders, and not investing in the long-term. this short-sightedness nearly wrecked the auto and steel industries, and energy costs over the past five years or so have skyrocketed because of a lack of diversification - I'm sorry, but "drill baby, drill" is *not* a viable solution for 10-20 years from now.
744 | Fat Bastard Vegetarian Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:24:19am |
re: #736 Locker
I ate at the Omaha Beef Company one time. Asked the Bartender what she'd recommend for a vegetarian. She replied, "I'd recommend he go back outside and read the building."
745 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:24:45am |
re: #742 American-African
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion...
re: #742 American-African
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion...
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
746 | Varek Raith Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:25:13am |
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
747 | sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:25:26am |
re: #738 brookly red
a 3" thick pastrami sandwich makes a great 1st impression...
Is that before, after or during foreplay!?!?!
BAD SATT ,,,, BAD BAD BAD!
748 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:26:24am |
re: #746 Varek Raith
I must not fear.
Fear is the mind-killer.
Fear is the little-death that brings total obliteration.
I will face my fear.
I will permit it to pass over me and through me.
And when it has gone past I will turn the inner eye to see its path.
Where the fear has gone there will be nothing.
Only I will remain.
Dammit! I was supposed to re-do the floors upstairs this weekend. I now have to go and watch Dune, Twin Peaks, and Fire-walk with Me.
Thanks, guy!
749 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:26:27am |
and another great American invention... (Locker don't look)
750 | Buck Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:26:45am |
re: #736 Locker
I was able to trace my ancestry to the guy who invented the fish and chips...
The first combined fish 'n' chip restaurant was by a Jewish immigrant, Joseph Malin, close to Bow Bells in East London around 1860.
751 | brookly red Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:26:47am |
re: #749 brookly red
and another great American invention... (Locker don't look)
[Link: whatscookingamerica.net...]
sorry
752 | American-African Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:27:53am |
re: #745 Guanxi88
It is by will alone I set my mind in motion. It is by the juice of sapho that thoughts acquire speed, the lips acquire stains, the stains become a warning. It is by will alone I set my mind in motion.
because you are the quizatz haderach!
753 | The Left Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:27:55am |
re: #722 sattv4u2
AND most importabnt (besides the meat itself, of course) is a GREAT Rye bread
I just found a recipe for making decent rye bread. Haven't yet tried it myself but I have hopes. NY rye bread is not something I can get where I'll be going.
[Link: smittenkitchen.com...]
754 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:28:27am |
re: #734 Obdicut
As would using a different surface. Are you saying if someone uses a surface that's harder to walk on-- uses more energy to walk on-- rather than an easier-to-walk on surface when building a path, they are engaged in 'energy theft'?
An an easier-to-walk on surface can be characterized as elastic (like rubber) or inelastic (like sand, mud, snow, or any kind of thing that energy of motion is transferred to irreversibly). The tiles described would be in the second category.
755 | lawhawk Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:28:52am |
re: #739 Spider Mensch
Yeah, they did a pilot project in the East River. Had some teething problems, but they demonstrated proof of concept.
756 | Guanxi88 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:28:59am |
re: #752 American-African
because you are the quizatz haderach!
I dunno about all that, but my name is a killing word. /Just sayin'
757 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:29:38am |
re: #754 abolitionist
Yeah. That didn't answer my question.
If I'm making a park, do you think I'm engaging in 'energy theft' if I make a path out of gravel-- which sucks up a lot of energy since you actually displace it-- rather than a nice rubbery polymer?
758 | RadicalModerate Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:30:37am |
re: #719 RogueOne
[Link: www.huffingtonpost.com...]
Joe Arpaio's Sheriff's Office Faces Possible Sanctions For Destroying Racial Profiling Records
I'm really surprised that the feds haven't hit Sheriff Joe Stormfront like a ton of bricks for the shady actions he's pulled over the last few years.
And I don't use that moniker for Arpaio lightly, as his racism has been well-documented here, and with multiple watchdog and media groups.
759 | cliffster Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:32:53am |
re: #744 Fat Bastard Vegetarian
I ate at the Omaha Beef Company one time. Asked the Bartender what she'd recommend for a vegetarian. She replied, "I'd recommend he go back outside and read the building."
I didn't realize you were a vegetarian.
760 | Sloppy Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:33:39am |
Re: Reubens
My facts are too shaky to debate whether they were invented in Omaha or New York, and I'm too lazy to do any research. I will defend Omaha steaks, even knowing that the best one I ever had was at Sardi's in NY.
761 | Spider Mensch Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:34:53am |
re: #755 lawhawk
Yeah, they did a pilot project in the East River. Had some teething problems, but they demonstrated proof of concept.
If it would work on a big scale..like the Gulf stream..now that might be something..the larger aqautic life is probably smarter then we give them credit for (speculation on my part) and they would just avoid the turbines...but it's ideas and concepts like this that give me hope for my children and someday grandchildren.
762 | RogueOne Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:35:08am |
re: #758 RadicalModerate
He's been under investigation for awhile now. It's only a matter of time before they pin something on him. I think he's a dirtbag, but I think the feds have a habit of making shit up. Either way, IMHO he's eventually going down. I read last week his poll numbers are taking a beating but when I read the poll he still has a 60%+ approval rating.
763 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:36:52am |
re: #757 Obdicut
Yeah. That didn't answer my question.
If I'm making a park, do you think I'm engaging in 'energy theft' if I make a path out of gravel-- which sucks up a lot of energy since you actually displace it-- rather than a nice rubbery polymer?
If the gravel saps too much energy, I might prefer to walk on the grass. But no, using gravel for a pathway is not energy theft, as the energy I lose to it is converted to heat.
764 | Stuart Leviton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:37:58am |
To my Jewish bretheren on lgf:
: How do we know that whenever one offers
rebuke he should offer a blessing also? Because it is written
(Mishlei 24:25), "Those who give rebuke should make it pleasant, and
to them will come the blessing of good." In this world, the midrash
concludes, we are blessed by messengers, but in the world-to-come,
G-d Himself will bless us.
765 | Stuart Leviton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:40:24am |
To my Jewish brethern on lgf (ctd):
"Habituate yourself always to speak all of your words in a calm tone (b'nachas) to all people and at all times, in this way you will be saved from anger. - from Iggeret Ramban
766 | Buck Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:41:14am |
re: #646 Locker
Spray-on liquid glass is about to revolutionize almost everything
Invented in Turkey, by a German Company. Sounds amazing.
767 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:44:17am |
re: #763 abolitionist
So your objection is that the energy you lost on the special path would actually be used for something useful, and you're against that?
768 | sattv4u2 Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:45:58am |
re: #759 cliffster
I didn't realize you were a vegetarian.
What part of Fat Bastard VEGETARIAN didn't you understand !?!?!?!
//
769 | Stuart Leviton Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:51:44am |
lgf is a good web-site. I learn much from everyone each time I read it. I also often get a terrible headache when visiting the pages because of the acrimony. Anger is a form of idolatry. Do be careful for your own sake, please.
The rebuke I have given in these three quick posts is meant more for myself than it is for several (beloved) lgf commentators. I share from my folly to your wisdom. Shabat Shalom.
770 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 10:58:28am |
re: #767 Obdicut
So your objection is that the energy you lost on the special path would actually be used for something useful, and you're against that?
Any energy sapped beyond what I'd otherwise expend by walking, I'd consider stolen, yes. Might as well put people on treadmills and hook them up to the power grid. That would just as ethical but more honest.
771 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 11:01:06am |
pimf - be more ethical... and probably more cost effective, too.
I'm trying to get across what a lousy idea it is.
772 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 11:06:32am |
re: #770 abolitionist
You are in the position of seriously saying that if someone makes a gravel path rather than making a rubbery path, they are stealing your energy.
That is pretty goddamn insane, man.
773 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 11:06:36am |
Dang. ...would be just as ethical... (slow machine here; many seconds to move a blinking cursor)
774 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 11:18:52am |
re: #772 Obdicut
You are in the position of seriously saying that if someone makes a gravel path rather than making a rubbery path, they are stealing your energy.
That is pretty goddamn insane, man.
I said a gravel path would not be theft...
There would be nothing of value taken from me, with or without my consent.
But a walkway designed to extract useable energy from me, even if horizontal, is equivalent (from my POV) to a walkway that is uphill, both ways. Or to a treadmill powered transport which transmits energy (beyond that needed for my motion) somewhere.
775 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 11:23:32am |
re: #774 abolitionist
But if it takes the same energy to walk on gravel that it does on the path that captures energy, you're fine with the gravel path but against the one that captures energy.
So you're just logically contradicting yourself.
776 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 11:38:00am |
re: #775 Obdicut
But if it takes the same energy to walk on gravel that it does on the path that captures energy, you're fine with the gravel path but against the one that captures energy.
So you're just logically contradicting yourself.
If the object is power generation, I'm going to insist that treadmills hooked up to the power grid make a lot more sense.
777 | Obdicut Fri, Feb 5, 2010 11:52:28am |
re: #776 abolitionist
If the object is power generation, I'm going to insist that treadmills hooked up to the power grid make a lot more sense.
So are you going to deal with your self-contradiction at all, or just leave it lying around?
778 | abolitionist Fri, Feb 5, 2010 12:14:51pm |
re: #775 Obdicut
Yes, I'm fine with a gravel walkway. A cheap walkway that is a little more wasteful of my foot-pounds than an elastic mat is acceptable, partly because I can be confident that my energy loss per step is not likely to be jacked way up in the future, and that maintenence costs will remain near zero. Neither would be the case with a walkway designed to extract energy from pedestrians.